[bannie]

I can't believe this person's disregard for the good of the church. That, alone, should get the person kicked out instead of ordained.

[MadIvan]

We live in an instant gratification society. Self-discipline is just not something that is cherished any longer. But it's loathsome that in a profession that demands a higher calling, that self-discipline cannot be exercised even then.

Regards, Ivan