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To: TXBubba

Well if you are praying just before you are about to be sent to your death

Just who is Jesus praying to?
a. himself
b. His Father in Heaven

Mark 14: 36
36 And he said, Abba, Father,
all things are possible unto thee;
take away this cup from me:
nevertheless not what I will,
but what thou wilt.

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3 Ne. 11:
11 And behold,
I am the light and the life of the world;
and I have drunk out of that bitter cup which the Father hath given me,
and have glorified the Father in taking upon me the sins of the world,
in the which I have suffered the will of the Father in all things from the beginning.



b Matt. 26: 39 (36-46).

39 And he went a little further,
and fell on his face,
and prayed, saying,
O my Father,
if it be possible,
let this cup pass from me:
nevertheless not as I will,
but as thou wilt.


D&C 19: 17 (13-20).

17 But if they would not repent they must suffer even as I;

http://scriptures.lds.org/mark/14/36a


64 posted on 04/28/2006 12:48:59 PM PDT by restornu (Earnestly it is impossible for man to walk with God, and also maintain the humor of a reprobate!)
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To: restornu
What is 3 NE 11 and D&C 19: 17 (13-20)? They aren't in my Bible. BTW, my Bible says Jesus was praying to his Father in heaven. Again, if other sources outside the Bible have to be used I am for sure we aren't worshipping the same God. Because my Bible says there won't be any other sources. Thanks again for clarifying the issue for me.

Have to go pick up the kids now. You have a good day.

66 posted on 04/28/2006 12:58:57 PM PDT by TXBubba ( Democrats: If they don't abort you then they will tax you to death.)
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To: restornu; TXBubba
Just who is Jesus praying to? a. himself b. His Father in Heaven

So, you're basically telling us that if Frosty the Snowman started to simultaneously melt into dripping water & give off vapors of steam that there is absolutely no distinctiveness between those vapors & Frosty, or no distinctiveness between the dripping water & frosty? Wherever that dripping water goes, there goes Frosty downstream. And whatever cloud that vapor goes into, there goes Frosty...storming down upon us later on.

The analogy is simple, but yet doesn't even begin to reflect the profound complexity of a God who communicates with Himself: Snow is water; vapor is water; water is water. All one nature; yet revealed in distinctly presentable forms.

Basically, what you're telling us is that you believe in an ultimate God (prior to any other gods and any angels & any men) who was utterly alone. Love always has a subject and an object. If God is Love, He has always been loving. If the Original, Ultimate God from eternity had no on-par part of Himself to love, then there was a time in which He wasn't Love. That, is an impossibility.

God is Love. He has always been relational. If a man and wife can be 2-in-1, and if that reflects who God is, then why can't God be 3-in-1? Why do you believe in a God who is less unified with His fellow divine personalities than a man and wife is in marriage?

Finally, LDS can't even conclude who they should pray to based upon their own sacred Scriptures. LDS say they pray to Father alone; yet the Book of Mormon is replete w/numerous references to Nephite disciples who were praying directly to Jesus. [You can't go back into those verses and add into the margin that they were praying to Father through Jesus. Those Book of Mormon verses clearly do not say any such thing].

71 posted on 04/28/2006 1:15:51 PM PDT by Colofornian (What's wrong w/praying to Jesus? What's wrong w/relating directly to Jesus?)
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