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To: restornu
And yes Heavenly Father did BEGAT His ONLY BEGOTTEN Son Jesus Christ! How many times need you say the same thing over and over let along in the same thread!

(a) Your Elohim has a body of flesh & bones, right? (Historic Christianity--no). (b) When you say any man is involved in a "literal paternity"--as McConkie said about the LDS Elohim, or rather than letting any other man do it--like Brigham said, then you are saying that a man had sexual intercourse to beget a child.

So A + B above set against LDS also saying Mary was a virgin, does not compute. You can't have a doctrine of literal procreation in heaven (spirit babies being born in heaven), literal procreation on earth, and Elohim having a literal flesh & bones body--not simply a spirit body--and then try to suddently spiritualize away the implications of words by Brigham, McConkie, and, I believe it was, Joseph Fielding Smith, without having folks draw conclusions that none of these prophets or leaders took any pains to leade readers to draw any different conclusion. Doctrine.

379 posted on 05/05/2006 12:07:34 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
a)Your Elohim has a body of flesh & bones, right? YES

I will repeat again please don't ask this question in a few days later, or a year later etc.!

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So what you are visiualizing is two Flesh and Blood bodies,

The Heavenly Father has a body of Flesh and Bone, NOT Flesh and Blood!

Luke 1
30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.

31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.

32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?

35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

It is the Divinity that is being begotten so Jesus is part Man, part divine!

IMHO

I do know the Heavenly Father part has nothing to do with the temporal ways

380 posted on 05/05/2006 12:40:40 PM PDT by restornu (Elevate Your Thoughts!)
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