One way to understand authority & submission (the two ends of lordship) is to first look @ it through the eyes of marriage.
Christ submitted to death & more on our behalf. Likewise, Eph. 5:25 says husbands should submit to ultimate sacrifices on behalf of wives. It's a form of submission. Eph. 5 talks about mutual submission in a husband-wife relationship (Eph. 5:24ff). Submission is not the negative concept feminists have made it out to be; it's a divine practice within God, Himself. Jesus on his knees washing the disciples' feet was not the first time He submitted; it's what He's done from eternity. As Lord, He didn't grasp after authority, even though He had the "right" to do so. He waited until He was granted the exercise of all of it. (Matt 28:18-20).
Lastly, you can't understand this concept unless you grasp something of Philippians 2:6-7: "Who, being in the very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness..."
>>So who exactly GAVE Christ this authority if he is the only God involved why not say I have all authority…
>>One way to understand authority & submission (the two ends of lordship) is to first
>>look @ it through the eyes of marriage. Christ submitted to death & more on our
>>behalf. Likewise, Eph. 5:25 says husbands should submit to ultimate sacrifices on
>>behalf of wives. It's a form of submission. Eph. 5 talks about mutual submission in a
>>husband-wife relationship (Eph. 5:24ff). Submission is not the negative concept
>>feminists have made it out to be; it's a divine practice within God, Himself. Jesus on
>>his knees washing the disciples' feet was not the first time He submitted; it's what He's
>>done from eternity. As Lord, He didn't grasp after authority, even though He had the
>>"right" to do so. He waited until He was granted the exercise of all of it. (Matt 28:18-20).
>>Lastly, you can't understand this concept unless you grasp something of Philippians
>>2:6-7: "Who, being in the very nature God, did not consider equality with God
>>something to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a
>>servant, being made in human likeness..."
I thought we had agreed on using the KJV here…
6: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
9: Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11: And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Authority and submission, right, God the father has the authority, and Christ is in submission to it, got it, next? Oh, that’s it, well how about this, I am in the form of god, I mean I look like my father who if you follow it back, looks like Adam who was created in the image of god, Jesus who was the express image of god walked among men without being noticed for his different appearance? You work it out, I already have.
BTW I wanted to go on down to verse 11 I like the “Every knee shall bow, and every tongue confess” part, yes before you ask mine and every Mormon and especially the prophet’s knees and Tongue’s even those from Utah.
You still didn’t answer the question, of why Christ needed to grant himself authority if he is the only God, he would already have it.
I submit to you that Jesus Christ’s life was more than just the culmination of the reason for the earth being created; God ordained that he be a similitude of our journey here. In the Old Testament, called by one name, he was a spirit, premortal being. For most of the New Testament, during this life, he was called by another name, came and lived on the earth, was tested, passed, suffered, overcame, served and died here. In the end of the New Testament it is clear he will return, with his resurrected body intact, in Glory as the God of this earth to rule and reign as is his right and will be called by the same name as in the old testament, because he is the same personage.
Amen.