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To: Quester; XeniaSt; Diego1618; tenn2005; DouglasKC
me: Another question, Quester. Who wrote the 10 Commandments?

you: Why ... God, of course.

Jesus Christ wrote the 10 Commandments Here is my scripture to back it up, but I betcha Xenia can thrown down some of that funky Hebrew and make the case better than I:

1Co 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 1Co 10:2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 1Co 10:3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat; 1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

Joh 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

Exo 20:2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

Salvation under the Law requires a 100% grade.

Indeed, but look at what Paul also said:

Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Paul is saying that obedience to the Law is a product of true faith, but faith is not a product of obedience to the Law. Had Paul actually preached the end to the Law, they would have crucified him, too. Recall that the Pharisees were trying to get Jesus to break the Law so they could stone Him here:

Mat 12:1 At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were hungry, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat. Mat 12:2 But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day

Know we all know the outcome here, the Sabbath was still the Sabbath before and after this exchange, but what was clarified was what to do on the Sabbath, not whether or not to keep it.

... unless you are set upon accusing your brother.

There is no need for going there. If your answer to the previous question is accusing, consult the author.

Regarding your theology, it is quite rare to see such a display of moral relativism here on FR. Is it OK for two men to be married in a Christian Church and thus consumate that relationship all in the name of the Lord? Heck, as long as it is done "in the spirit (of truth)", it must be OK, huh?

This nonsense that one must not Judge is ludicrous. Paul seems to be rather judgmental right here:

1Co 5:1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife. 1Co 5:2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you. 1Co 5:3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed. 1Co 5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 1Co 5:5 To deliver such a one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

252 posted on 04/14/2006 5:07:17 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20)
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To: kerryusama04
Paul is saying that obedience to the Law is a product of true faith, but faith is not a product of obedience to the Law.

I do not entirely disagree ... but I would pose the question ...

What of the Law should be the outcome of faith ?

The whole Law ... including ...
... animal sacrifice ?

... circumcision ?

... the annual pilgrimage to Jerusalem ?

... the stoning of insolent children ?
Regarding your theology, it is quite rare to see such a display of moral relativism here on FR. Is it OK for two men to be married in a Christian Church and thus consumate that relationship all in the name of the Lord? Heck, as long as it is done "in the spirit (of truth)", it must be OK, huh?

I believe that this issue is addressed in the NT.

Noone who follows the NT would be considered a moral relativist.

This nonsense that one must not Judge is ludicrous.

I think that we'd agree that Jesus wasn't just making smalltalk when He taught about not judging one's brother.

The question would be ... what did He mean ?

Jesus clearly says that we should, in love, try and apply correction to our brother's errors.

What Jesus did not say ... was that we can make any claim to judge the motivations and intents of anyone's heart ... simply because such is beyond our calling.

Only God knows the heart ... and, therefore, only He will judge the heart rightly.

Jesus also said that, frequently, those that are prone to judge ... have much deeper moral failings ... than those they choose to target.
Matthew 7: Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

253 posted on 04/14/2006 6:28:11 PM PDT by Quester
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