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To: tenn2005
Good, we are making some progress here. Did the New Covenant include the Gentiles or just those of the Nation of Israel?

Wow, you're just bound and determined to turn God into a liar here, aren't you?

Let me explain exactly who this "never covenant" is with:

Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

Here:

Eph 2:11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

Gentiles ARE strangers from the covenant of promise. They are aliens from the commonwealth (citizenship) of Israel.

Through Christ, gentiles BECOME part of the house of Israel, part of the household of God. If they are NOT then they cannot be part of the new testament. It's right there in black, white and red. If you find yourself arguing against what it says in God's word, then you should be asking yourself where and when you were led into error.

212 posted on 04/12/2006 9:28:28 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: tenn2005
Let me explain exactly who this "never covenant" is with:

Sorry, should have read "new covenant" is with...

213 posted on 04/12/2006 9:30:29 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC
Gentiles ARE strangers from the covenant of promise. They are aliens from the commonwealth (citizenship) of Israel.

It is not God's word that I argue against, just those who would distort it. You once again chose to stop reading before you got to the verses that exposes your error. Read Eph 2:13-16. You chose to post the condition of the Gentiles prior to the blood of Christ. Vs 13ff explains their present relationship with God. You need to learn to read the entire context before cherry-picking your verses.

215 posted on 04/12/2006 9:36:54 PM PDT by tenn2005 (Birth is merely an event; it is the path walked that becomes one's life.)
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To: DouglasKC

OK, I'm following you now.

Let's see: WE're supposed to "keep" the OT feasts, but the feast days were changed, except for the parts that weren't changed. And Jesus came to remind us to keep the feasts. But don't celebrate His resurrection, because that is "pagan".

Riiiiiiiight.

You sure have an airtight grasp of the essence of the Gospel.

Oh, also, there's the little point that you don't believe in the Christian doctrine of the Trinity.


232 posted on 04/13/2006 5:42:45 AM PDT by Taliesan (What you allow into the data set is the whole game.)
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