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To: Iscool; netmilsmom
"your church makes the claim and takes the position that anyone who is not Catholic, who is not 'sprinkled with blessed holy water', by a 'Priest', can not be a real born again Christian...
And your church makes no secret about their position on this..."

You are incorrect on this. In fact the RCC has excommunicated a Priest for making statement such as the ones you just did. The name of the Priest was Father Fenney, I may not have the spelling correct but he was from the Northeast of the US and worked in the 50s (I think) He was excommunicated (the real thing) but was reunited to the Church when he renounced his heresy. It is to be pitied that he had followers who maintain the same error you assign to the Roman Catholic Church.

There is a doctrine of the Church that says there is no salvation outside the Church. It was made a dogma during the Council of Florence in response to the Great Schism of the Eastern Orthodox. This was more than a few years before Martin Luther wanted to sleep with Nuns outside of marriage (a little dig I admit, but true none the less)

The RCC Teaches there are three types of Baptism, water, desire, blood. And it is not absoluter required to be by a Priest, in fact if a child is dying or anyone for that matter any faithful Christian can do so. I am not sure it is totally necessary they be Catholic (there is much debate on this little item, so don't run off with this one matter. I will not be able to resolve it for anyone. I do not have the authority)

I could go on with the flaws in your post but this is a fair beginning.

One last thing you should consider, if you want to comment on what Catholics believe it would be better if you found a better and more credible teacher because so for they are selling you one pack of ..... let us just say their info is incorrect and leave it at that.
86 posted on 03/26/2006 1:54:58 PM PST by iluvlucy (swim the Tiber, the water is fine)
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To: iluvlucy

Shhhhhh, don't confuse anyone with facts....


98 posted on 03/26/2006 3:03:50 PM PST by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: iluvlucy
I could go on with the flaws in your post but this is a fair beginning.

One last thing you should consider, if you want to comment on what Catholics believe it would be better if you found a better and more credible teacher because so for they are selling you one pack of ..... let us just say their info is incorrect and leave it at that.

And here's one for you

And here's a quote from the page:
These can be saved by what later came to be known as "baptism of blood" or " baptism of desire" (for more on this subject, see the Fathers Know Best tract, The Necessity of Baptism).

The Fathers likewise affirm the possibility of salvation for those who lived before Christ and who were not part of Israel, the Old Testament People of God.

However, for those who knowingly and deliberately (that is, not out of innocent ignorance) commit the sins of heresy (rejecting divinely revealed doctrine) or schism (separating from the Catholic Church and/or joining a schismatic church), no salvation would be possible until they repented and returned to live in Catholic unity.

According to your church, there is no salvation for a Protestant outside of your church...You can remove your foot now...

126 posted on 03/26/2006 4:53:31 PM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the whole trailer park...)
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