To: steadfastconservative; All
No one is asking that people believe everything they read or see on the internet. This thread only asks that one keep an open mind on this, and have a desire to see if anything ultimately comes of this.
This isn't over by a long-shot. More investigation is needed on this matter. But I welcome further inquiry, as should you.
As well, what is your basis for Church Tradition?
If there are no historical documents from the Apostolic age, to and through the time of the Early Church Fathers supporting, say, giving reverence to religious art or images, or giving reverence to what the religious art or images represent, then what do you base your Traditions on?
You ultimately would have to base it on supposition and presumption - that what the RCC teaches now (like giving reverence to what religious art and images represent) must be what the Apostolic fathers and ECF's taught, since the RCC teaches it now.
But that would be a classic case of circular reasoning, which the RCC has to rely on to support teachings which cannot be justified by the scriptures or the earliest written historical documents from pre-Nicene church times.
What the RCC teaches now must be what the Apostles and ECF's taught - because we teach it now. And because the RCC teaches this now, it must be what they taught then, etc, etc...
As I said, without the scriptures or the earliest written historical documents to support giving reverence to art/images, or what the art/images represent, the RCC has to rely upon circular reasoning to buttress its claims.
59 posted on
03/26/2006 11:25:26 AM PST by
Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
67 posted on
03/26/2006 11:55:15 AM PST by
lastchance
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Yes, you are asking everyone here to believe that this movie might be true, otherwise why would you bring it to our attention? I am starting to think that people will believe anything they read on the internet.
Tradition consists of the teachings that have been handed down from the time of the apostles.
BTW, the Catholic Church determined the canon of Scripture. Without the Catholic Church, you Protestants wouldn't have a Bible.
Finally, there were not many written documents, besides Scripture, before the Council of Nicea since the Church was persecuted by the Roman Empire up until the year 315, when Constantine ended the persecution. Good try.
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