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'Satanic' Art In Catholic Church Exposed
WorldNetDaily ^ | March 25, 2006 | Staff

Posted on 03/25/2006 11:29:40 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist

Could the Roman Catholic Church's sex abuse crisis be tied to embedded Satanic and occult imagery in its artwork - some of it hundred's of years old?

That is the seemingly incredible thesis of a new documentary, "Rape of the Soul," made not by anti-Catholic bigots, but by devout followers of the Church.

Rape of the Soul is in theatrical release in major cities, including New York and Los Angeles.

The documentary explores the prevalent use of satanic, sexual, and occult and anti-Catholic images in historical and contemporary religious artwork. The film also discusses the acceptance of the artwork at the highest and most trusted levels of the Catholic Church...

..."Artists from DaVinci to Botticelli have imbedded subliminal images into their art for centuries, said Calace...In this case we found penises on crucifixes, anarchy symbols, swastikas, demonic faces and in modern works even the word 'sex' encrypted into the images.

The works in question include modern artists' work currently on the covers of missalettes and hymnals that at this very moment sit in the pews of churches throughout the U.S. and on children's teaching aids."

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: art; catholic; catholicbashing; catholicism; earlychurchfathers; laissezfairebashing; prenicene; rcc; religiousart; religiousimages; romancatholicchurch; unchristlikebehavior
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To: stands2reason

Who said that there was a conspiracy? I know, just pop something out there that no one has said in the first place and then use that false statement as a tool.



221 posted on 03/27/2006 6:43:55 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Judith Anne
Your comments are indicative of a person who engages in put downs and is of the lowest sort of character.

I apply the term Ad Hominem to all of my posts? No, only when I repeatedly have to deal with persons who want to attack me instead of the information that I have presented here. If YOU understood what AD Hominem was you would understand that I have correctly applied it when the situation called for it.

If you are indeed Catholic, is God pleased with that kind of behavior from you?

But I bet that you are a different person come the time to attend church, Mass, whatever. Hypocrite?

How can you call yourself a follower of Jesus Christ, if you even are, and act like that?
222 posted on 03/27/2006 6:50:59 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

What are you yammering about?

Many Catholics bow to images of Mary and revere what the image of Mary represents.

The New Testament condemns this behavior, and the Early Church Fathers considered this to be paying homage to accursed spirits and demons.


223 posted on 03/27/2006 6:55:42 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: G Larry

That is within the OT. The New Testament, the New Covenant that we are commanded to live by, forbids this behavior.

The Apostles condemned this behavior.

The ECF's did as well.



224 posted on 03/27/2006 6:59:32 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: iluvlucy
This very quote is the second and third lines in the text. Is there something you are not understanding about the phrase “going to one extreme” and the following phrase “going to the other extreme”?

Sure...Some Catholics think a Protestant can get saved...Some Catholics don't...Some Catholics like pickels on their P&B sandwiches and some like mustard on their ice cream...Yer working hard to dissect this thing...

Yes there seems to be a little more reading you need to do to understand Catholic Theology. I will tell you this it is a little more than one can read on a bumper sticker.

Well good...You then, know the position of your church...It's a matter of history that many popes as well as the church claimed there was no salvation outside the church...And we don't need to dissect a paragraph to understand that...Thousands, if not millions of non-catholic christians were murdered and their bibles burned for refusing to become catholic, in the old days...

At Vatican 2, they changed the wording a bit even tho the two sites I pointed you to say it's practically the same ole game...

So tell us, what is the official position of the Catholic church regarding the Salvation of Protestant Christians who do not accept the Catholic church as the 'one and only' church???? Not the extremist position one way or another, but the official current position...

225 posted on 03/27/2006 7:03:08 PM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the whole trailer park...)
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To: All
Well, that does it for me for this thread.

I had such a wonderful time conversing with these Catholics on this thread who may claim to be children of God, but by their very behavior on this thread show that they may actually be children of God in name only.

How they can willfully engage in name-calling, put downs, and belittling of others and still claim that they are children of God is beyond me.

Someone said on this thread that God is the one who converts, not Catholics. This is true, but how can these Catholics on here think that anyone will be drawn to God given the egregious behavior of Catholics here?

Yes, the Bible says, "By their fruit shall ye know them."

Yeah I believe that we know them on here and their fruit of name-calling, put downs, and belittling of others is quite evident.
226 posted on 03/27/2006 7:11:34 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; netmilsmom; restornu; Judith Anne; Salvation; stands2reason

http://www.udayton.edu/mary/questions/faq/faq20.html


227 posted on 03/27/2006 7:12:32 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: All

A better terminolgy for the behavior of Catholics on here who engaged in put downs, name-calling, and belittling of others would be unChristlike, more than not acting like children of God, although both are fitting in thie case here concerning what has transpired on this thread.


228 posted on 03/27/2006 7:15:52 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Do not dub me shapka broham

The Apostles and the ECF's would condemn paying hyperdulia to Mary were they around today.

Their writings in the New Testament and later on(which I have quoted at the beginning of this thread) confirm this.

Now I'm done.

Adios.


230 posted on 03/27/2006 7:20:13 PM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist (Keep working! Welfare cases and their liberal enablers are counting on you!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Hang on for just one more reply.

I promise that it will be worth it.

231 posted on 03/27/2006 7:30:31 PM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham ("The moment that someone wants to forbid caricatures, that is the moment we publish them.")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

K, Mister "Bible Only", where in the New Testament is "this behavior" "forbidden"?
Where do the Apostles "condemn" this behavior?
What are the ECF's?


233 posted on 03/27/2006 9:00:10 PM PST by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: All

To whomever it may concern: knock off the personal attacks!


234 posted on 03/27/2006 9:02:04 PM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I had such a wonderful time conversing with these Catholics on this thread who may claim to be children of God, but by their very behavior on this thread show that they may actually be children of God in name only.

Time to take the plank out of your eye, "brother".
235 posted on 03/27/2006 9:20:24 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
A better terminolgy for the behavior of Catholics on here who engaged in put downs, name-calling, and belittling of others would be unChristlike, more than not acting like children of God, although both are fitting in thie case here concerning what has transpired on this thread.

Well, I knew this thread was a waste of time when I clicked on it, but it's been interesting what you've revealed about yourself. Thanks for an interesting discussion, and pardon me for laughing in your face. ;-D

236 posted on 03/27/2006 9:24:34 PM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

For art hundreds of years old to somehow affect child abuser priests implies some sort of conspiracy. Unless the film producers are ludicrously putting forth the idea that merely looking at these paintings subliminally causes child abuse or caused liberal homosexuals to enter the priesthood in order to infiltrate it. I truthfully never considered that. I'm sorry, but it was too ridiculous to consider.

And if lone Satanic artists were imbedding naughty items in their artwork, it doesn't seem to be any big deal unless there was a plan by those inside the church to do so. That is, a conspiracy.


237 posted on 03/27/2006 10:32:39 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

"Canonical" means included in the canon of Scripture; it does not mean "authoritative" or "inspired by God." Documents do not have to be canonical in order to be authoritative.

Clement is a reliable historical source on the issue of apostolic succession because he had personal knowledge of this. Whether or not he believed in the mythical phoenix, as many of the ancients did, is entirely beside the point.


238 posted on 03/28/2006 6:01:57 AM PST by steadfastconservative
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