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To: Cinnamon Girl
What part of the Maccabean revolt was akin to the Inquisition exactly?

Compare it to the Albigensian Wars, where the Inqusition was started.

Also, please tell me which page of the Talmud discusses Jesus, I'll look it up. I don't think you will end up with good support for the claims of Christianity from the Talmud.

Sanhedrin 107b "Jesus the Nazarene [who] practised magic and led Israel astray."

See also here, where I saved an American Jewish Committee article from disappearing down the Memory Hole, which deals with the famous Sanhedrin 43a passage.

See also:

http://judaism.about.com/od/beliefs/a/jesus.htm

Which discusses generally such passages as:

Sanhedrin 106a&b, Yebamoth 49b, Shabbath 104b, etc.

I mistakenly allowed you to sidetrack me from the subject at hand, which is the Inquisition, one of the darkest periods in the history of the Catholic church.

I don't think there was anything dark about it at all. Its records and proceedings and rules were open and are still available for inspection.

You continue to justify the forced conversion of Jews, without acknowledging that there is something inherently wrong with this practice

???? Where?

I read the link to the Sephardic history website and it doesn't support your claim at all.

http://www.sephardicstudies.org/islam.html

What is this then?

It was said that immediately after the invasion, the Jewish population of Toledo “opened the gates” of the city, welcoming the North African Muslims (Wexler 218).

Clearly it bothers you that the Inquisition occurred as it did, but nevertheless, it is what it is.

I'm not bothered by it at all. I'd like to see it back, with boy-lover Priests going up in the flames of the pyre.

291 posted on 03/23/2006 6:42:25 AM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Thank you for directing me to your post from the American Jewish Committee. Now I am completely clear where you are coming from. YOUR SOURCES ABOUT THE TALMUD ARE WRONG. You know that you haven't read the Talmud and have no idea what you are talking about. You have found some sources on the internet which perpetuate some complete fallacies which some people started in a sad attempt to find support for Christianity through Jewish sources. Why is that necessary for you? I don't need to disassemble other religions in order to know the Torah is G-d's law. G-d's Word is loud and clear. And if you wanted the Talmud to support the Christian Bible, don't you find it odd that there is hardly any mention of anyone named Yeshu, and the mentions that exist are probably of at least two different people, who lived a hundred or more years earlier than Jesus? I notice that someone posted a link that might have helped you on your AJC post, but I guess you ignored it: http://talmud.faithweb.com/ And why not type in Sanhedrin 107b into Google and see how different the Jewish websites are from the Christian ones. That should be a clue to you that there is some total misrepresentation of the Talmud going on by people who cannot read the Aramaic and haven't any idea what it actually says. Please see also http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=8530 which refutes the AJC article.

About.com is yet another lame website and is no more authoritative than wikipedia in that people can post what they want. None of what is written in your link is true. Sorry. If you are really interested in what Jews believe, why not sit down with an Orthodox rabbi and talk it over, and look directly at some sources, rather than trying to piece together something that makes you feel good on the internet?

You still haven't denounced the forced conversions of the Inquisiton, and you ignored my question about Abdul Rahman. Wonder why. Actually, I don't. You have dragged in a lot of extraneous and erroneous material to make your case and when all is said and done, you seem to be defending the Inquisition, and perhaps the Crusades as well. That's unfortunate, because American Christians have no part in such history and have always demonstrated beautiful religious tolerance. Give it a try. Until you state that the Inquisition was completely and horribly wrong and that forcing Jews to choose conversion or death was a disgusting low point in the Catholic church, and until you state that the muslims would be wrong to put Rahman to death for converting to Christianity, I'm done writing to you.

302 posted on 03/23/2006 11:02:57 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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