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To: Cinnamon Girl
That was G-d's Will as told directly to the prophets. We do not believe there have been any prophets since the time of the prophets.

It is also enshrined in the Levitical Legal Code.

Can you think of any time since the prophets that Jews have gone about murdering people for practicing another religion?

The Maccabean Revolt.

You'll have to try and find something besides the Christian Bible to make your case since Jews do not regard it as historical fact.

The existence of Jesus and his execution at the behest of the Jews is not an historical fact? The Talmud thinks it is, and gladly takes credit for it.

Is your ultimate argument that Christians were right to murder Jews and should continue to do so? Please answer yes or no.

No. Where did I ever say that? I said the Inquisition was perfectly legitimate for chasing down Catholics trying to destroy the Church and overthrow the State by breaking their oaths and subverting religion, morality, and public order. I questioned why you called chasing down heretics persecuting Jews. Is every heretic a Jew?

Also, you never explained the following statement:

How is throwing open the gates of the holy city of Toledo to the Moors during the invasion part of "tolerantly living under Islam" and not "collaboration with the invaders"?

Who "threw open the gates" and why is Toledo a "holy city?"

The Sephardi Jews of Spain threw open the gates. See the Sephardi website I linked to up thread.

Toledo is a Holy City because it was the seat of the Primatial Archbishop of Spain, like Lyons for France, Rome for Italy, Canterbury for England.

288 posted on 03/22/2006 7:08:54 PM PST by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
What part of the Maccabean revolt was akin to the Inquisition exactly? Also, please tell me which page of the Talmud discusses Jesus, I'll look it up. I don't think you will end up with good support for the claims of Christianity from the Talmud.

I mistakenly allowed you to sidetrack me from the subject at hand, which is the Inquisition, one of the darkest periods in the history of the Catholic church. You continue to justify the forced conversion of Jews, without acknowledging that there is something inherently wrong with this practice, and even denied that you advocated it, but then advocated it again with a lot of mumbo jumbo about heretics bringing down the church. What RUBBISH. The Jews were told to convert or lose their property, convert or get out of Spain, and then convert or die and then the Church turns around and says 'you didn't convert with sincerity.' No duh. Think about it for a second at least.

I read the link to the Sephardic history website and it doesn't support your claim at all. And try to keep in mind that the Jews had no country, no army, and were struggling to survive against the oppressive edicts in Spain and Portugal. You are twisting history to suit your purposes. Clearly it bothers you that the Inquisition occurred as it did, but nevertheless, it is what it is.

Finally, do you advocate the death penalty for Abdul Rahman who is on trial in Peshawar for converting to Christianity? Surely you can have no philosophical objection to this since he is a heretic and has subverted morality and religion according the muslims.

290 posted on 03/22/2006 9:51:57 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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