[sanormal]

Prior to the change in Soviet attitudes toward the ROC in 1939, there were millions that were martyred for their faith and allegiances to Orthodoxy. They were holy witnesses to truth.

After 1939, the ROC Holy Synod was controlled by the KGB and made into a mouthpiece of the Communist Party, furthering Soviet foreign policy and the ongoing Soviet persecution of non-Russians. The ROC was responsible for the forced integration of non-Russians and non-Orthodox into the Holy Synod. The ROC defends these actions, still.

I compare this to the role that the Roman and Eastern Catholic Churches in the USSR had in overthrowing Communism and undermining the Soviets from within.

I have yet to form an opinion as to why there was such an extremely different outcome to the same persecution and oppression.

I have asked for others to offer a reason and have yet to get a reply. Perhaps you would proffer one?

[FormerLib]

I have asked for others to offer a reason and have yet to get a reply.

Because the Roman and Eastern Catholic Churches in the USSR didn't have so much as a fraction of the impact that you'd like to imagine that they had.

I have asked for others to offer a reason and have yet to get a reply.

Now you have.

[OldCorps]

Sir,

I do not mean to be disrespectful to you, but I have yet to have a meaningful dialogue with a Roman Catholic apologist on this forum. You make several statements which you assume I accept: that is not the case. For one, I do not accept that the MP has grace, and that its synod, going back to Met. Sergius were legitimate bishops. There are many canons which support this view and up to a few years ago they were quoted by theologians in the Church Abroad. The MP bishops were appointed by the KGB and I view them as nothing but KGB agents in cassocks. They persecuted THE Church which went into the catacombs.

As for your comparison to RC bishops, again I have a different take. I view your bishops as nothing more than power hungry Western heretics and not legitimate bishops at all. I have no interest in them, or in anything they do or say. Thus, I don't really care to comment on anything they did.