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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; xzins; RnMomof7; George W. Bush; jude24; HarleyD; Gamecock; Frumanchu
Amen. There is no truth greater than the fact we reap what we sow. The Counter-Reformation never ended. Indeed, on this forum we witness it daily.

"Deceit is in the heart of them that imagine evil: but to the counsellors of peace is joy." -- Proverbs 12:20

210 posted on 03/19/2006 9:57:13 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Campion; Dr. Eckleburg; RnMomof7; xzins; George W. Bush
The whole thing makes me sick.

They're accusing John Calvin of Sodomy in adolescence, while he was still Under-Age, still under the Tonsure -- if they really WANT to believe the tabloid charges of a medieval Roman Catholic "controversialist" (i.e., PROPAGANDIST), then exactly WHOM are they charging?

The Roman Catholic Priest who allegedly buggered John Calvin as a Child?

What a bunch of Outdated Fascists, Theological-Cowards, and Priestly-Pederastic Sodomites.

Campion, if you (among the few Roman-Catholic Disputants whom I actually respect) are so dishonorable as to entertain these Tabloid Accusations against Saint John Calvin -- then, respectfully, you can go bugger the choir-boy you rode in on.

You and the rest of your Koran-Kissing, Pederasty-excusing, rapidly-bankrupting, Decrepit and Dying so-called "Roman Mother Church".


And to think I actually defended you, the Roman Catholic Church and her Parochial Schools.

Being a Libertarian, and therefore a Believer in Natural Society (see Aquinas), I actually went to the trouble of Posting Articles exhibiting the difference between "good" Catholic Parochial Schools as opposed to "evil" Government Schools.

I will never make that Mistake again. If you don't want me to speak on behalf of Roman Catholics, then I won't.

Your Denomination is Dying; Mine is Growing.

If you don't want the support of Protestants... we certainly don't need you.
Indeed, Luther himself advised us that the Greeks were the "Better Half" of Christendom.

Good-Bye.

Best, OP

211 posted on 03/19/2006 10:39:13 AM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian (By the power of the truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Hey Dr. E.

If I would have listened to the propaganda against John Calvin, who I have a very soft spot in my heart for, I would have never discovered his beautiful and virile advocacy of God as Father.

I should be shocked at the chin-jutting reference to buggery, but I’m not.

The Italians in my neck of the wood will often use the expression senza vergogna. Vergogna means shame, senza means without, but when the phrase is used, it means so much more. It means, in the case at hand, knocking on the door of an offense your side has mastered, with immeasurable self-regard and arrogance, and with what appears to be pride in the fact that the mastered offense pricks the conscience not at all. In the old days this was enough to get you ostracized at the very least, because of the degraded character that it evinced.

The salutary thing about it, once it surfaces, is that it brings much to the fore, and forewarned is forearmed.

On another thread it was remarked to me that I was becoming affiliated with a doctrine that threw souls in the trash. Even if this were true, theoretically, but shown practically to be just the opposite, what is to be said of those who preach the opposite doctrine, theoretically, but practically, really do dump the souls entrusted to them in the trash?

It is, in the dialect , ’roba da pazze’; the stuff of madmen.

229 posted on 03/19/2006 12:12:58 PM PST by AlbionGirl (The Doctrine of God's Sovereignty has restored my Christian Youth.)
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