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To: NYer

Dwight's post demonstrates that the Reformation was the religious justification for the political rise of the Nation-State and cannot be understood outside this context.

The religious ideas of the Reformation accompanied political actions and had political consequences.

Thankfully, Christianity was able to seperate politics from theology (not morality from theology). America is the result of this division and has prospered from it.


39 posted on 03/16/2006 8:40:11 AM PST by sanormal
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To: sanormal

>> Thankfully, Christianity was able to seperate politics from theology (not morality from theology). America is the result of this division and has prospered from it. <<

America was an attempt to see if religious distinctions could be brushed under the rug and the religious values held in common could alone be sufficient for maintaining a state. We'll see how long it works for. So far, in the 5,000-year history of Yahvistic governance, America's secularism has survived for about 200 years. Fortunately, the truly brilliant concept behind America's governance isn't merely ecumenism, but self-correction. As Europe's radical-secular ecumenism falters, we'll see if ours is made more resilient by our self-corrective mechanisms.


43 posted on 03/16/2006 9:06:46 AM PST by dangus
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To: sanormal
The religious ideas of the Reformation accompanied political actions and had political consequences.

Thankfully, Christianity was able to seperate politics from theology (not morality from theology). America is the result of this division and has prospered from it.

It prospered when men thought that they should serve God and the state should serve men, now too many people believe that both God and men should serve the state. "Ask not...."

60 posted on 03/16/2006 10:51:02 AM PST by TradicalRC (No longer to the right of the Pope...)
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America is the result of this division and has prospered from it.

First off, America is a moral toilet.

Second, I believe the Bible says that true prosperity is about storing up treasure in Heaven, not on Earth. I know that doesn't jibe with society as a whole's self-worship and mammon-worship (not to mention certain elements of the Right's worship of America and worship of President G.W. Bush), but...
105 posted on 03/16/2006 11:08:29 PM PST by Conservative til I die
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