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To: aimhigh
We weren't even talking about the Inquisition here . . . unless you can provide some facts it just looks like random Catholic-bashing. (Maybe there ought to be a corollary to Godwin's Law, concerning people who bring up the Inquisition out of the blue . . . )

As a matter of historical fact, there was no Inquisition in England. Mary Tudor along with her husband-in-name-only had a shot at trying and executing Protestants, but Rome had nothing to do with it. And Edward, Elizabeth and their mutual daddy participated wholeheartedly in the opposite direction.

Much of the conflict in England was political. Henry VIII wanted the monasteries' wealth to shore up his debased currency . . . the wanton destruction was a side-effect of stirring up the masses against the Catholic church. The problems with the succession and Henry's failure to produce an heir created still more political conflict and dragged the religious issues in again because of the refusal of Rome to annul Henry's first marriage just because his sons by her failed to survive to grow up.

. . . I was an Episcopalian for years before I became a Catholic, and as my undergraduate degree was in history I have more than a passing familiarity with the English situation. The article seems to hit the nail on the head -- if you have any historical fact to the contrary, please provide.

33 posted on 03/16/2006 7:55:37 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother
Henry's grandfather (great grandfather?) in France (Rene of Anjou) had 2 wives and 3 concubines.

Not just that it was a family tradition, but these guys were in the wool trade. They transported uncarded wool to Italy, and carded wool from Italy to Turkey to be made into rugs. They then peddled the rugs throughout their various domains in France, etc. Columbus worked for Rene for awhile.

The very same family is easily found involved in the development of the Camisard movement and the Quaker movement. They were also involved in starting the Counter Reformation.

I think it's safe to say that Moslem cultural values filtered into the top run of the French aristocracy, and this colored the history of religious development for the next 500 years.

93 posted on 03/16/2006 6:19:33 PM PST by muawiyah (-)
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