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To: churchillbuff; Onelifetogive; fortunecookie; ExcursionGuy84; The Worthless Miracle; xrp; ...
I don't know that any "Near-Death Experience" has ever been approved by the Catholic Church as authentic. Even when canonized saints have has visions of heaven, hell, or purgatory, the Church does not endorse these officially; I suppose because abnormal brain states and hallucination would be the more likely explanation, even when the affiant is a person of known virtue and intelligence. And there's always the possibility of demonic deception.

NDE's that are all light, with no hint of judgment or repentance, seem especially to be based on wishful thinking, and even a more dangerous kind of delusion.

I am not making a judgment in this particular case; I am just saying that even Christians --- or, especially Christians --- are justified in being sceptical of

96 posted on 03/09/2006 10:02:56 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Jesus, my Lord, my God, my All.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I've had, what many have called, an "out of body experience". Perhaps I will write about it another time, and I'll let you be the judge of its authenticity.

Much has been made about OBE's as spiritual experiences. I never saw it that way. I viewed it as simply an extraordinary experience, probably resulting from all the mediations I had been performing at the time.

But I can tell you with all certainty, that the OBE I experienced, did not resemble in any way shape or form, the authentic spiritual experience of being born again into the spirit of Christ.

Leftist churches are the must apostate of all. They have Left the Word of God many years ago, pun intended.

FRegards, S4T.


154 posted on 03/09/2006 1:11:40 PM PST by Search4Truth (Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

"Near Death Experience" is relatively new a term for those suffering close to an absolute death of the body if not indeed an actual death.

Saints in the past may have been recognized to have physically died because others didn't know if death had actually come. You're right, though, that the Church is very leary of all private revelations. It takes a good deal of prayerful discernment to understand and a lot of joyful patients for God's answer.

Certain Saints are known to have divine visions gifted to them because such men and women have dedicated their entire lives to a devotion to Jesus:

of St Thomas Aquinas, would his ectasies have been concidered "near death experiences"?

"Towards the end of his life he had a divine revelation in the Chapel of St Nicholas in Naples it caused him to state,

"I can no longer write, for God has given me such glorious knowledge that all contained in my works are as straw - barely fit to absorb the holy wonders that fall in a stable," Three months later he died."

http://www.poetseers.org/spiritual_and_devotional_poets/christian/st_thomas/

I tried to search for St Don Bosco's life concerning a near fatal illness he suffered. Apparently close to death, he struck a deal with the Virgin Mary who interceded to extend his life that he may continue helping the children he adopted from the streets. This may be another example of a "near death experience".


156 posted on 03/09/2006 1:15:31 PM PST by SaltyJoe (A mother's sorrowful heart and personal sacrifice redeems her lost child's soul.)
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