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To: wequalswinner
Overlooking my grammatical error for the moment, I added another sentence about slavery, then deleted it. That's one of the arguments that used in favor of accepting homosexual acts and practices, even within the church; I haven't thrashed it out to my own personal satisfaction yet other than slavery, evil though we moderns view it, is in a different category.

I have a feeling that some slaves might view homosexual acts as a lesser sin which is not for them to call, but something to consider nevertheless.

It's something I need to work through. I've only gottten to the point that homosexual acts were condemned in many places in the bible and always by the church, whereas slavery, although condoned or not specifically condemned, was not intended to brutalize or demean another human being; it was a form of servitude which has had many variations through the centuries; many immigrants came to America as indentured servants as well as the poor souls who came bound in chains on slave ships and condemned to an unpleasant life. I do think that a few slaves in the old south became devoted to their masters and would have rejected "freedom".

We still have "slavery" by consent today that would not be frowned upon, you work for me for a certain amount of time, and I'll give you free room and board; whatever the two parties agree upon. The only difference is the coercive element. But one could argue sometimes economic conditions in diverse times and places have coerced people to become unpaid servants, work as a nanny or taking care of an elderly person for free room and board, for example (usually there is some money exchanged). So long as it was mutually consentual, I don't think there are any laws on the books in America to prohibit the practice per se.

Maybe some greater mind has wrestled with the concepts. This is not a good time to bring this up because I've got a lot to do and should be getting to it.

24 posted on 02/28/2006 7:03:55 AM PST by Aliska
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To: Aliska

Aliska, I would not be troubled by that comparison. All throughout the Old Testament are many parts that I am troubled by. Yes, those were different times in a different context of man. Those who would own slaves have much more than I would want to have to account for. I can't say for sure that the Holy Bible ever actually condoned it, but you have to admit that the slavery that the Israelites endured was much different in it's effect on the humanity of the slaves than what some other "situations" of slave ownership mentioned elsewhere. They were degraded, humiliated and murdered, and these were God's people. But they were enslaved because of their disobedience, and I guess in that regard you could posit that it was condoned by Our Lord. However, I don't remember anything in the Holy Bible ever once saying same sex relations were approved of by the Lord.

And I for one don't even need the Bible to tell me just how wrong it is. Its filthy and unnatural and something in it's practitioners has gone very, very wrong mentally as well as morally.


25 posted on 02/28/2006 4:33:53 PM PST by SaintDismas
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