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To: Campion
Nice try, but that's not Catholic belief. I know you can't justify yourself except by setting up strawmen to knock down, and that's all you're doing here.

Do you not see tradition and scripture as equal? Do you not see a proclamation on a matter of faith by the Pope equal to scripture?

It's historical fact that God gave it to you through the undivided Catholic church of the first millennium. If you don't like it, take it up with Martin Luther. He agrees with me.

God used the church to protect and preserve the scripture. He used men, inspired by the Holy Spirit to select the canon. That says nothing about the validity of the teachings of that church today. So to claim to have the authority for correct interpretation because of God using the early church to compile the NT Canon is faulty at its core. That was my point

124 posted on 02/06/2006 9:11:40 AM PST by RnMomof7 ("Sola Scriptura,Sola Christus,Sola Gratia,Sola Fide,Soli Deo Gloria)
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To: RnMomof7
Do you not see a proclamation on a matter of faith by the Pope equal to scripture?

Why, no, as a matter of fact, I don't, and I would be a bad Catholic if I did.

Public revelation ended at the death of the last Apostle. All of it is contained -- but not always explicitly --within Scripture and the rest of the tradition of the early Church.

Even an ex cathedra statement of a Pope isn't inspired, and can't produce any new public revelation. It's preserved from erring in doing so, but it can still only guard and preserve the revelation that came through the Apostles.

It's no wonder you left the Church if you thought Catholicism meant believing that a Pope's teaching was equal to Scripture. I would too, if I thought that.

133 posted on 02/06/2006 9:51:40 AM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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