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What Can Protestants Expect From The New Pope?
Modern Reformation ^ | APRIL, 21, 2005 | Michael S. Horton

Posted on 02/05/2006 12:36:59 PM PST by Gamecock

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1 posted on 02/05/2006 12:37:04 PM PST by Gamecock
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2 posted on 02/05/2006 12:38:40 PM PST by Gamecock (..ours is a trivial age, and the church has been deeply affected by this pervasive triviality. JMB)
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***What we all need most is a new reformation that once again is struck by the wonder of a gospel that is by grace alone, through faith alone, because of Christ alone—to the glory of God alone. We pray earnestly for a widespread rediscovery of this heavenly message prophesied by the prophets, incarnated in Christ, and proclaimed by his apostles. Only in that prayer can we anticipate a fuller unity for the followers of Jesus Christ.***

AMEN.


3 posted on 02/05/2006 12:39:35 PM PST by Gamecock (..ours is a trivial age, and the church has been deeply affected by this pervasive triviality. JMB)
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To: Gamecock

What can protestants expect from the new Pope/

Answer: more Catholicism.

You were expecting...Islam?...B'nai faith...Zoroastrianism?


5 posted on 02/05/2006 12:52:49 PM PST by TheRobb7 (The American Spirit does not require a federal subsidy.)
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To: NYer; Kolokotronis

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6 posted on 02/05/2006 12:53:03 PM PST by jecIIny (You faithful, let us pray for the Catechumens! Lord Have Mercy)
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To: Gamecock
Ratzinger is concerned with the spread of millennial-eschatological sects
is in part a reaction against the poor preaching and teaching in the churches,
but thinks that the apocalyptic prophecies delivered by Mary at Fatima can
be a good alternative to such sects (118).

“Sola scriptura” has led to a “free church” ecclesiology.

“For the modern man in the street, the most obvious concept of the Church
is what technically one would call Congregationalist or Free Church” (156-7).

Thoughts?

But thinks that the apocalyptic prophecies delivered by Mary at Fatima can be a good alternative to such sects

Wow!

b'shem Y'shua

7 posted on 02/05/2006 12:55:48 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Trust in YHvH forever, for the LORD, YHvH is the Rock eternal. (Isaiah 26:4))
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To: bornacatholic; Salvation; Knitting A Conundrum; sitetest; TaxachusettsMan

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8 posted on 02/05/2006 12:58:54 PM PST by jecIIny (You faithful, let us pray for the Catechumens! Lord Have Mercy)
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To: Gamecock; topcat54
Thanks, GC. To borrow a quote from Topcat's homepage...

"The Reformation is dying daily in our day when the Ecumenical Movement, and other forces like unto it, wish to soften the antithesis with Rome, today. I want to assure you that it's not my pugnacious debating nature that makes me say we must exalt that antithesis and guard it. It's my love for the Lord Jesus Christ and the purity of His word.

"Rome has not essentially changed. Rome declared that what it said at the time of the Reformation was infallible and could not change. Declared it to be irreformible truth. Rome has not changed and precious truths of God's word are still worth upholding even at the cost of unity even at the cost of being considered "troublemakers" in the religious world. We need to guard the antithesis against the destructive error of Rome." Dr. Greg L. Bahnsen -- From a tape, THE REFORMATION, October 28, 1990.


9 posted on 02/05/2006 1:20:34 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (an ambassador in bonds)
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To: Gamecock
What Can Protestants Expect From The New Pope?

Protestants have a New Pope? Go figure!

10 posted on 02/05/2006 1:25:40 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Larry Lucido
Self ping for later. But your comment was pretty funny!

A good number of Lutherans that I know are cautiously optimistic about BXVI. But we shall see.
11 posted on 02/05/2006 1:30:57 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Gamecock
Non-Catholics are in a state of grace, their baptism is recognized, and they are therefore “in a certain communion, albeit imperfect, with the Church.”

Funny... I tend to think of Catholics the same way -- in a certain communion, albeit imperfect, with the Church.

12 posted on 02/05/2006 1:34:37 PM PST by Terabitten (The only time you can have too much ammunition is when you're swimming.)
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To: Terabitten

LOL. Yep.


13 posted on 02/05/2006 1:58:30 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (an ambassador in bonds)
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To: Gamecock

AMEN


14 posted on 02/05/2006 2:59:52 PM PST by Dahlseide (TULIP)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Gamecock

The only ones to be sucked in are those who do not know why (or even if) they are protestants,


15 posted on 02/05/2006 3:04:57 PM PST by Dahlseide (TULIP)
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To: redgolum

Then they do not even know they are Luther(ans)


16 posted on 02/05/2006 3:07:11 PM PST by Dahlseide (TULIP)
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To: jecIIny

Interesting and worth reading.


17 posted on 02/05/2006 3:26:00 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg
You may not care, but in case you do I found this when I was researching something. This is from the National Catholic Reporter which I've not read, except for this piece, and it dates back to '97.

I understand it has a liberal bent, but I still found it interesting, and I think is probably fairly accurate, as I read the signs, anyway.

I don't believe you'll hear the word heretic coming from any quarter of the RC heirarchy. I don't think they can or want to make the case that however many millions of Protestants are out there, who profess belief in the Trinity, the Incarnation, the Crucifixtion, the Resurrection, Salvation by the Grace of God, etc. are heretics. They recognize the good fruits of the Protestants, it's hard not to.

The article I linked touches on that with references to the second Vatican Council.

This obviously doesn't speak for the Pope, but I would imagine that if it's true that he's a 'fan' of Luther, quite a bit of this might not be far off the mark.

All that being said, I don't know what they're going to do with all those 'accursed' and 'anathemas.' Perhaps they believe that's all water under the damn, and that it reflects a specific historical mindset that is really no longer in play. That's the tricky thing, I would think.

18 posted on 02/05/2006 3:31:12 PM PST by AlbionGirl
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To: AlbionGirl; Gamecock
Thanks for the link. I'll check it out.

If the RC church was inclined to rescind the anathemas of Trent, what's stopping them?

19 posted on 02/05/2006 3:46:45 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (an ambassador in bonds)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
If the RC church was inclined to rescind the anathemas of Trent, what's stopping them?

Dr. E, I don't know. When I was RC, I was a grunt, and a pretty lousy grunt at that. I don't want to repeat that experience. I didn't even know that they had been inclined to rescind them.

20 posted on 02/05/2006 4:50:11 PM PST by AlbionGirl
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