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To: P-Marlowe; Buggman; blue-duncan; Corin Stormhands

More thoughts from Arminius. Note how he sounds entirely different than others report.


2 posted on 01/25/2006 1:26:34 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: xzins
Of course, had you posted these last two posts together it would be clearly presented that Arminius still believes one must cooperate with and accept the grace of God (that is, the efficacy of the grace which God gives to man in order to save him is by no means assured) in order to be saved. Arminius believes it enables faith, Calvin believes it inspires faith.

You can re-frame it all you want, x. Arminius was no Calvinist, and neither are you.

3 posted on 01/25/2006 1:36:14 PM PST by Frumanchu (Inveterate Pelagian by birth, Calvinist by grace.)
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To: xzins; P-Marlowe; Buggman; blue-duncan; Corin Stormhands; Frumanchu
“In reference to Divine Grace, I believe,…2. It is an infusion” –Joseph Arminius on Grace of God

This is my opinion concerning the free-will of man…, ...except through the assistance of Divine Grace.... but yet not without the continued aids of Divine Grace.

These are nothing more than Catholic ideas. They never were Protestant thought and are precisely what the Reformation was framed against. I underlined that Arminius focused on his own tradition. If you agree with Arminius on these statements the apple has indeed fallen far from the tree.

6 posted on 01/25/2006 4:31:21 PM PST by HarleyD (Man's steps are ordained by the LORD, How then can man understand his way? - Pro 20:24)
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