Posted on 01/23/2006 7:53:15 AM PST by NYer
I've suggested re-looking at the OCP subscription to our parish liturgy committee. Doubt it will do any good with our current pastor, but you never can tell!
I've suggested re-looking at the OCP subscription to our parish liturgy committee. Doubt it will do any good with our current pastor, but you never can tell!
I agree, it may be a delightful song, but Church music it ain't!
Not naive, just a more generous person than I am.
No "Dude of Cool" is not real yet. But I can see it happening. The ancient metaphor of the Lamb of God is not enough. We must go beyond and away from the innocence of a little lamb.
John Tavener setting of the William Blake poem.
I also can see it happening, perhaps in a children's Mass designed for teenagers. That's why I asked.
I have also heard "prince of peace etc."
Perhaps we can thank the likes of Oregon Catholic Press for this kind of stuff also.
"A Mighty Fortress is Our God"
I know, I know. It's Lutheran.
So burn me at the stake.
;-)
WOW!!! Thanks for posting that link!
The more I see what the English-language liturgy *could have been* if its architects were not out-and-out barbarians, the more @*&*$*#($*& I get.
Did you notice how much easier the Alleluia chant is instead of the Celtic Mass or Jesuit Mass Alleluia. It took me several weeks to learn either of them. And I'm a musician, too, and I've sung in choirs for most of my life.
There's this "pop" Alleluia in like 4/4 I've heard only starting recently that is utterly atrocious. With c as the root... c-d-e-f, f-e-d-c. f-e-f-g, f-e-d-e. {shudder}
The Anglican musical tradition is so much more Catholic than the average parish fare that's served up nowadays.
OTOH, I love Salve Regina and centuries later it's hard to top Tantum Ergo, St. Thomas Aquinas is a genius, a real treasure for us. And I do enjoy Pescador de Hombres.
Lol ... not today :-)
I have truly enjoyed the posts to this thread. They resurrect memories from my former parish. The new 'light in the loafers' pastor, had a penchant for anything less than orthodox, especially the music. We already had two choral groups when he arrived - a contemporary group that 'performed' at the 9am 'Family' Mass and the staid 'choir' that sang at the 11am Mass. Preferring the choir, I always attended the latter where I enjoyed the more traditional hymns. Many of the young families preferred the 9 o'clock and some absolutely loved the more contemporary music. Father gave the contemporary group, 'pride of place' during high holy days. I recall one Christmas Vigil Mass where Father smiled broadly when a 2 year old child jumped up on the pew and began 'boogeying' to the contemporary music.
Thank you all for your contributions to this thread. Here is mine.
Aside from the liturgical chants, the hymns sung during the Maronite Divine Liturgy are quite old and limited. Like the chants, they are sung to a similar musical form. The most recognized Maronite hymns are 'O Bread of Life' and 'The Lord is My Shepherd'. The Maronites are not into innovation and Father is occasionally challenged to 'update' the music by those Maronites who have attended the Latin NO Mass. He smiles and reminds them of their roots. Bless him! (and thank you for not introducing these novelties into our liturgy.
A "liturgical dancer" in the making. *rolls eyes*
LOL, but disgusted at the same time, it's so sad and true at some parishes!
It was precisely this type of mass I attended about a year ago at my sister's parish in Idaho, where it came pretty darned close to this.
It took all I could not to leave in tears. I kid you not.
Fortunately, there were a lot of complaints afterwards (from what I heard) and things toned down a bit.
I'll second that!
I'll also chide choir directors for following blindly every suggestion OCP thinks is appropriate.
I mean, Adoro Te Devote and O, Sacrament Most Holy are in the Music Issue OCP publishes but we never, ever sing them. But we get plentiful helpings of the more 'modern' tunes that the congregation sings half-heartedly, if at all.
Must be a classmate of one of the choir directors at our parish. Before Mass, when he's warming up, he has a bad habit of 'noodling' blues riffs. Incredibly obnoxious. And, sorry dude, completely un-hip.
If Duke Ellington or Ray Charles wouldn't do that in church, he shouldn't either.
I think he must regret not having a misspent hard-rockin' youth to look back on.
I wish he would just form a cover band and go out and try to get some paying gigs on Friday nights.
Bumping this again.
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