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The New "New Testament"
The Redneck Rastafarian ^ | 1/22/'06 | The Redneck Rastafarian (Zionist Conspirator)

Posted on 01/22/2006 12:15:36 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator

Have you heard the news? The "old covenant" between G-d and the Jews is no longer in effect. Sinai has been superceded. But not to worry; the Jews still have an important place in this "new testament," even though their role has changed radically.

Yes, once upon a time the Creator of the Universe chose the progeny of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob to teach the world about G-d. They were given the Holy Torah and the Land of Israel. They built a beautiful Temple in Jerusalem and on behalf of mankind conducted the sacrificial service G-d gave them. But that's all over now. And it's all because of The Passion.

Have you heard about this? Oh, you have. You just don't realize it.

You see, the time eventually came when the Jews had to leave their haven of Theocracy and go out into the big wide world. And there they encountered generation upon generation upon generation of people who allegedly believed in the Jewish G-d but hated the Jews. And that's when their atoning sacrifice began.

The medieval mobs spat on them; the Crusaders scourged them; the pogromming Cossacks crowned them with thorns. And then came the truly awful yet inevitable conclusion: the Genesis-kissing, Bible-thumping chr*stian mobs (probably made up of people named Reuben, Caleb, and Jedidiah) crucified them at a place called Auschwitz.

And then a new world began.

For you see, the Jewish People really performed the greatest service humanity has ever known.

They died for us. They redeemed us. And they opened the door.

They saved mankind from the awfulest scourge it had ever known: religion--especially any belief in the Jewish G-d!

What else are we to make of the bizarre situation we live in today, when we dare not hope for a return to the seeming moral sanity of less than forty years ago, and the Jewish People, the People who taught us all that reactionary, "fascist" morality in the first place, is invoked as the reason? Why else do we find ourselves in a world where the "right" to blaspheme HaShem and His Torah is considered absolutely essential for a "decent" society but where denial of the Holocaust is against the law?

Make no mistake about it; societies--all societies--punish the denial of their foundational myths, and the Holocaust is the foundational "myth" ("myth" in this context means not something that didn't really happen, but a societal foundational narrative) of the post-modern world. Every other event in Israel's long history--from the Creation of the world to the Great Flood to the election of Abraham to the Exodus from Egypt to the Revelation at Sinai to the historicity of King David--is subject to militant doubt and skepticism. Only the great slaughter of the 1940's remains, and it is considered so foundational, so essential, that it is the one event in history whose denial is a crime.

Not please do not misunderstand me. I am neither a Holocaust denier nor an apologist for Holocaust denial. But I do question why this event from Jewish history is given a dogmatic binding force by law while so many other events in Jewish history are considered fairy tales. Is this not bizarre?

I maintain that a new religion has grown up around the Holocaust: a religion that has in its effects repealed the Covenants of Noach and Sinai and absolutely reversed the role of the Jewish People in the world. Where `Am Yisra'el were once the G-dly People, the people-of-religion par excellence, they are now the chr*st-figures whose death, burial, and resurrection redeemed the world from religion (though the "resurrection" seems to be highly problematic to the more extreme advocates of this new religion who think the State of Israel is a "betrayal" of the reason the Six Million died). Now every mitzvah, every minhag, every manifestation of Judaism has been shorn of its essentially Theocratic message and turned into a sign of "religious freedom," "pluralism," "multiculturalism," "tolerance"--in effect, of total and absolute religious subjectivism.

The kippah (skullcap), once a sign of submission to an objective Supernatural Order, is now interpreted to mean that "personal expression" (eg, tattooing) is permitted here. The distinctive gabardine of the Eastern European-derived Chassidim, originally in imitation of Polish nobility (because the Jewish People are G-d's nobility among mankind) now merely means that this is a tolerant society that permits "gays." The holy Seifer Torah (the very source of the "fascist" King James Bible) teaches us that no one has a monopoly on religious truth. The thrice daily prayers (a bit of a burden for a "non-religious" people) simply demonstrates that no one has the right to tell anyone else that he can't worship Satan, or Molekh, or himself. We have religious freedom in this country, and in the entire Western World--and the Jews died that we might have it!

And of course, in the most egregious example of all, the chanukkiyyah (Chanukkah menorah), especially when placed on public property, tells all those chr*stian bigots that "everyone is welcome here" (even Jew-hating moslems). Of course, the creche can't go there because it implies the opposite, merely because it is the religion of the majority. Even the notorious "Red Ken" Livingstone, London's rabidly anti-Israel and pro-Arab mayor, has giddily kindled a public chanukkiyyah while happily chattering about the contributions to "cultural diversity" of the Jewish People (he mentioned Marx, Freud, and Einstein in particular--he's apparently never heard of Abraham, Moses, and David).

It is unpleasant, but it is true--we are told over and over and over by the forces of irreligion and immorality that "we can't go back to a simpler world" because of the Jewish experience that culminated in the Holocaust. Once the people whose role was to teach the rest of humanity about G-d, they have been made into the people on whose behalf belief in G-d must be eradicated. And there is no doubt that this has helped to increase anti-Semitism among certain religious groups, especially when they notice that Orthodox Jewish belief and practice is allowed to continue unaltered on the grounds that it represents an "early warning system" or a "canary in the coal mine" that warns the anti-religious cultural elite that religion is about to rear its ugly head.

These essays of mine use the word "irony" quite a lot, but that is because the situation--the actual content of the Jewish religion as opposed to its context as a "minority religion"--is simply overflowing with ironies. One of the greatest is that the separation of "religion" from life in general and its relegation to an innocuous private practice has been achieved in the name of protecting the Jewish People when the separation of "religion" from the rest of life is totally alien to the entire world of Jewish thought up until the "enlightenment." In fact, there isn't a real Hebrew word for "religion" because "religion" apart from the rest of life and reality simply doesn't exist. G-d created the "real world" in which we live and all the phenomena in it, and everything in traditional Jewish life is governed and regulated by "religious law"--from prayer to eating to communal law and government to which direction one's bed lies in to how one ties one's shoes in the morning. And liberal Jews still have the unmitigated gall to claim to be "good Jews" while insisting that "religion" is a subjective, private affair with no real connection to objective reality? Pardon my language, but peresh par!

Yes, life must be based on a foundation, whether the life of an individual, a family, a civilization, or of humanity as a whole. But Auschwitz is a terrible foundation on which to base life in the modern world, especially for Jews who are made to feel guilty and "un-Jewish" for acting like their ancestors who fought holy wars and destroyed the enemies of HaShem rather than meekly submitting to be killed so that we could therefore have a G-dless and "more humane" world. Israel in particular is constantly scolded and labelled with the "Nazi" lable by people who claim to appreciate Jewish suffering during World War II but who can't appreciate Jews in any other context than suffering. Just as the chr*stian "new testament" and its claim to have superceded Sinai must be rejected, so must the religion of "Holocaustianity" with its deification of the suffering Jew and its concomitant demonization of the Theocratic Jew.

There is a reason that both the chr*stian and liberal "new covenants" try to retain the central place in human history of the Jewish People; it is because that place so objective that it cannot be denied. This being the case, why this need to create continual "new covenants" on which to base our lives when one already exists? The Covenant of Sinai (which includes and finalized the Covenant of Noach for non-Jews) is the final, definitive Revelation of G-d to mankind to which all further revelations must defer for judgement. It neither allows for nor authorizes any "new covenents" that supercede it or change the Jewish mission from what it has always been. Since the centrality of `Am Yisra'el in history is so obvious, then the authentic Jewish Covenant should be equally obvious.

Only a world based on Sinai will be safe from more Auschwitzes. A world based on Auschwitz, that celebrates the mass murder of Jews as somehow redemptive of mankind, can only implicitly call for more of the same, G-d forbid.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Current Events; General Discusssion; History; Judaism; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Theology; Worship
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I've got the worshippers of Rand, Jefferson, and Paine piling on me on my latest "crevo" thread, so I might as well offend everybody else. And I don't think this one will leave anybody out!
1 posted on 01/22/2006 12:15:38 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator
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To: Zionist Conspirator

(the finger)


2 posted on 01/22/2006 12:23:44 PM PST by Jaysun (The plain truth is that I am not a fair man, and don't want to hear both sides.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I don't have time to read the whole rant, but it looks like you had fun, anyway. Bless your heart!


3 posted on 01/22/2006 1:01:30 PM PST by Tax-chick (“Oh, that alters the case. Whatever General Lee says is all right, I don’t care what it is.”)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
There is a new covenant. It is called the New Testament.

The word testament is a derivation of the Latin word testamentum, which was used in Jerome's Vulgate to translate the Hebrew word b'rith, covenant. The Greek equivalent is diatheke, which also means covenant. The word has come to be used in describing the two main divisions of the Bible: The Old Testament and The New Testament. It should be understood then, that the Bible is generally to be looked at as a covenant between God and man. www.carm.org/dictionary/dic_t.htm

Israel is God's chosen people, but even they should live by the New Testament and the Old Testament.

Matthew 5:17
17. Think not that I am come to destroy the law,or the prophets: I am not come to destroy bur to fulfil.

Galatians 3:14,28-29
14. That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
28. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond not free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
4 posted on 01/22/2006 3:03:22 PM PST by Creationist (If the earth is old show me your proof. Salvation from the judgment of your sins is free.)
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To: Creationist; Zionist Conspirator
Those who follow Jesus Christ and identify with His people, the church, are the chosen ones of God.

"Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. ... But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; 1who once were not a people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy." (1 Peter 2:4,5,9,10)

The only thing that those who fail to name the name of Christ are chosen for is destruction (Rom. 9:22).

5 posted on 01/22/2006 3:51:03 PM PST by topcat54
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To: Tax-chick
I don't have time to read the whole rant, but it looks like you had fun, anyway. Bless your heart!

I only wish I'd remembered to bring the creation/evolution issue into it. Just as the Revelation at Sinai is the final seal of authority for the creation account of Genesis so liberals maintain that Auschwitz proves that we must never posit any ultimate meaning, since people who believe in ultimate meaning kill Jews.

Of course people who don't believe in ultimate meaning seem to have an ultimate meaning of their own.

6 posted on 01/22/2006 4:38:09 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Shallach 'et `ammi veya`avduni!)
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To: Creationist
A bit of advice (though you doubtless will ignore it): when you're dealing with someone who believes in the "new testament" you can "prove" something by quoting it. But when you're dealing with someone who doesn't assume the truth of the "new testament" from the get go, quoting it to "prove" something makes as much since as quoting the qoran.

Fundamentalist Protestants (whom I love dearly) have forgotten this since they stopped converting unbelievers long ago and their converts now consist of people who already believe the doctrines of the religion. I plan be`ezrat-HaShem to write on this soon.

7 posted on 01/22/2006 4:41:48 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Shallach 'et `ammi veya`avduni!)
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Of course people who don't believe in ultimate meaning seem to have an ultimate meaning of their own.

Excellent point. I've noticed that myself.

8 posted on 01/22/2006 4:44:46 PM PST by Tax-chick (“Oh, that alters the case. Whatever General Lee says is all right, I don’t care what it is.”)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
You are right I will not heed to your advice. For if you post on a religion web you better be ready to see scripture. You quote from people whom many as my self do not accept as informative, with something to prove to us.

I am informing you of the scripture so when you meet God you can not say you never heard of it.
9 posted on 01/22/2006 4:47:44 PM PST by Creationist (If the earth is old show me your proof. Salvation from the judgment of your sins is free.)
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To: Tax-chick
Of course people who don't believe in ultimate meaning seem to have an ultimate meaning of their own.

Excellent point. I've noticed that myself.

Free Republic has its own share of crusading atheists who celebrate the Grand Teleological Story of Science. Marx' "omega point" was a classless society. I guess atheist FReepers' is Randian Superman stomping the hoi polloi into nothingness.

10 posted on 01/22/2006 4:49:30 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Shallach 'et `ammi veya`avduni!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I have no time for Rand, I must say. Now if Thomas Sowell were put in charge of the whole world ...


11 posted on 01/22/2006 4:52:48 PM PST by Tax-chick (“Oh, that alters the case. Whatever General Lee says is all right, I don’t care what it is.”)
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To: topcat54; Creationist; Zionist Conspirator
The only thing that those who fail to name the name of Christ are chosen for is destruction (Rom. 9:22).

What translation do you use, mine says:

Romans 9:22 What if God, choosing to show his wrath and make his
power known, bore with great patience the objects of his
wrath — prepared for destruction?

How do you read the following verse?

Romans 10:13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” [Joel 2:32]

Do not Torah observant Jews call on the Name of the L-rd?

They may not know that His Name is Y'shua.

b'shem Y'shua

12 posted on 01/22/2006 5:04:34 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Trust in the YHvH for ever, for the LORD, YHvH is the Rock eternal. (Isaiah 26:4))
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To: XeniaSt; Creationist; Zionist Conspirator
Do not Torah observant Jews call on the Name of the L-rd? They may not know that His Name is Y'shua.

The Name of the Lord is Jesus. It is the same name by which God revealed Himself in the Old Testament.

"Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad." (John 8:56) Abraham was looking to Jesus for his salvation, just as we do today. Anyone who claims to know the Father must acknowledge the Son, Jesus Christ.

"Therefore everyone who has heard and learned from the Father comes to Me." (John 6:45)

Anyone who does not approach the Father by the Son is lost.

"let it be known to you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead, by Him this man stands here before you whole. This is the 'stone which was rejected by you builders, which has become the chief cornerstone.' Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." (Acts 4:10-12)

When Peter spoke these words, those who were appointed to eternal life from among the Jews believed and proclaimed the name of Jesus. Those who did not perished in their sins. It is no different today.

Jesus Christ and His Jewish apostles gave their very lives to bring the good news of Jesus Christ to their fellow Jews. If being "Torah observant" was enough, then their work was absolutely unnecessary. The Law can only bring death. Jesus Christ alone brings life and frees us from the penalty of the Law.

Anyone who claims a "Torah observant" Jew can be saved without trusting in the finished work of Christ is preaching another gospel. It is not the Christian gospel of Holy Scripture.

13 posted on 01/22/2006 6:10:33 PM PST by topcat54
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To: XeniaSt
Romans 9:22 What if God, choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath — prepared for destruction?

I did not post it and did not look it up for truth.

I use the KJV which uses old English. The old English words have not change in definition. Unless one understands Greek or Hebrew it is the closet to the translation of the original word.

Romans 9:22
What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much long-suffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

choosing--to make a deliberate decision to do something
willing----ready to do something voluntary
bore---to make somebody lose interest and so feel tired or bored
endured---to tolerate or accept somebody or something that is extremely disagreeable
patience---the ability to endure waiting, delay or provocation without becoming annoyed or upset
long-suffering---patient and enduring in the face of suffering or difficulty
object---something that can be seen or tangible
vessel---somebody who embodies a quality.
prepared---ready and able to deal with
fitted---to be suitably adapted:
It is my belief that some of the other translations of the Bible remove the feeling from the Word of God by using words from today. As some with definitions from the dictionary.

An interesting read is The Language of the King James Bible (Discover its hidden Built-in Dictionary) By Gail Riplinger.
14 posted on 01/22/2006 6:29:29 PM PST by Creationist (If the earth is old show me your proof. Salvation from the judgment of your sins is free.)
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Just a friendly reminder: the main purpose of this article was to attack not chr*stianity, but the liberal Jewish cult of the Holocaust as being the basis of all modern life (and especially the war against religion). I can appreciate the need of chr*stians to respond but I would have liked some input on the actual topic of the article.


15 posted on 01/23/2006 7:35:51 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Shallach 'et `ammi veya`avduni!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
>the main purpose of this article was to attack not chr*stianity, but the liberal Jewish cult of the Holocaust


I do not know, but
I feel the urge to make sure
I am well grounded . . .

16 posted on 01/23/2006 7:39:35 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: Tax-chick; All
I have edited my newest essay to include the following paragraph:

One could even make the point that just as the Covenant of Sinai validated the Genesis narrative of Creation (since only G-d Himself actually witnessed those events), so the great slaughter is often used to vindicate the theory of ultimate meaninglessness and the completely random nature of creation. After all, people who believe in Meaning kill Jews; therefore belief in Meaning must be discouraged lest more Jews be killed. Never mind that these opponents of Meaning never seem to lack for motivation for any number of "progressive" moral/ethical crusades.

17 posted on 01/23/2006 8:13:27 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Shallach 'et `ammi veya`avduni!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

This is really a very interesting point. You seem to be saying (or implying) that the "historiographical use," as it were, of the Holocaust has been to recast Judaism as a system based, not on fear of G-d, but simply on fear. The result is that the development of indifference to religion, or even of generalized (rather than particular) hostility toward religion, is seen by some as being a positive development for Jewish people.


18 posted on 01/23/2006 8:22:10 AM PST by Tax-chick (“Oh, that alters the case. Whatever General Lee says is all right, I don’t care what it is.”)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Then why the need for this comment?

"There is a reason that both the chr*stian and liberal "new covenants" try to retain the central place in human history of the Jewish People; it is because that place so objective that it cannot be denied. This being the case, why this need to create continual "new covenants" on which to base our lives when one already exists? The Covenant of Sinai (which includes and finalized the Covenant of Noach for non-Jews) is the final, definitive Revelation of G-d to mankind to which all further revelations must defer for judgement. It neither allows for nor authorizes any "new covenents" that supercede it or change the Jewish mission from what it has always been. Since the centrality of `Am Yisra'el in history is so obvious, then the authentic Jewish Covenant should be equally obvious."

It may not have been the main attack, but it was an attack against Christianity just the same. You realize we judge Sinai according to Christ, not vice versa.

"God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; " (Heb. 1:1,2)

19 posted on 01/23/2006 9:52:04 AM PST by topcat54
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To: topcat54; Creationist; Zionist Conspirator
When Peter spoke these words, those who were appointed to eternal life from among the Jews believed and proclaimed the name of Jesus. Those who did not perished in their sins. It is no different today.

Jesus Christ and His Jewish apostles gave their very lives to bring the good news of Jesus Christ to their fellow Jews. If being "Torah observant" was enough, then their work was absolutely unnecessary. The Law can only bring death. Jesus Christ alone brings life and frees us from the penalty of the Law.

Anyone who claims a "Torah observant" Jew can be saved without trusting in the finished work of Christ is preaching another gospel. It is not the Christian gospel of Holy Scripture.

13 posted on 01/22/2006 7:10:33 PM MST by topcat54

Tell me how you read :

Romans 11:25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so
that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a
hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in.

Romans 11:26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The deliverer
will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.

Romans 11:27 And this is [Or will be] my covenant with them when I take
away their sins.” [Isaiah 59:20,21; 27:9; Jer. 31:33,34]
Romans 11:28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies on your
account; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs,

Romans 11:29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable.

They may not know His Name is Y'shua

b'shem Y'shua

20 posted on 01/24/2006 2:41:50 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Trust in the YHvH for ever, for the LORD, YHvH is the Rock eternal. (Isaiah 26:4))
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