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To: seamole
So to sum up your logic: You've demanded an infallible presentation of all the infallible teachings of the Catholic Church in the format of your choice. Some guy you ran into on the Internet won't give this to you. Therefore, the Catholic Church doesn't exist.

To sum up your position, infallibility does exist in the Church, even if you can't point out exactly which teachings are infallible. Not much comfort, is it? Imagine a barrel full of apples. You are told that there are definitely some pure, unadulterated apples in there. But, there are also poisoned apples. Can't tell the difference from looking at them. Knowing that there are good apples in the barrel doesn't help me, if I can't identify them. I guess you just eat them all and realize you are being poisoned.

Scripture is my standard for spiritual knowledge. My belief and underlying assumption is that Scripture is infallible. If I run across an apparent contradiction, the possibility of error is not on my list because of my underlying assumption. I must dig deeper to look for the resolution, which usually brings me to a deeper understanding of scripture while resolving the conflict at the same time. Do you believe the same about the teachings of the Church? That it is free from error?

Catholics, then are left to decide for themselves if a teaching conforms to Scripture. Hey, that's what us protestants do!
This is a shameless falsehood. The Catholic faith existed before Scripture was written, let alone before it was canonized in 400 AD. The faith was passed down from the Apostles directly to their successors.


I'm failing to see what the age of the Church has to do with our discussion. Unless you are saying that ALL of Catholic teaching is infallible- are you?

A final question for you: are the teachings in Trent, Vatican I, and Vatican II infallible?
111 posted on 01/26/2006 5:50:41 PM PST by armydoc
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