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To: Terriergal
At the end of his second sermon last Sunday, he reminded his largely affluent Orange County audience: "Life is not about having more and getting more. It's about serving God and serving others."

That, simply put, is his message. Give your life to God, help others, spread the word.

Serving others is worthy whatever the motive. I sure hope that Pastor Warren leads people to Christ in such a way so people do not get confused that they think they are earning their way to heaven.

5 posted on 01/10/2006 10:18:25 AM PST by wallcrawlr (Pray for the troops [all the troops here and abroad]: Success....and nothing less!!)
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To: wallcrawlr
Serving others is worthy whatever the motive.

Not always the case. If you're expecting some sort of kickback I would call that somewhat less than sincere.

No, I'm not an anti-capitalist.

18 posted on 01/10/2006 10:56:54 AM PST by shekkian
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To: wallcrawlr
IS anyone even reading the article?

Warren said he sees religious institutions as more powerful forces than governments for solving the world's problems.

Ok...

"I would trust any imam or priest or rabbi to know what is going on in a community before I would any government agency."

OK...How about Bin Laden?

But, powerful as churches can be in working for the powerless, they can't succeed without governments and nongovernmental organizations, Warren said.

He just disavowed the entire New Testament. Which is it? He's talking out of both sides of his mouth. First churches are more powerful than Government, then they aren't.

He's toeing the Jim Wallis line, can't you see that?

34 posted on 01/10/2006 12:04:54 PM PST by Terriergal (Cursed be any love or unity for whose sake the Word of God must be put at stake. -- Martin Luther)
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To: wallcrawlr
Serving others is worthy whatever the motive.

Hamas is loved by many Palestinians because they are known for their service to the poor, etc. And I really don't think you want to say that what Hamas stands for is worthy. :(

126 posted on 01/10/2006 3:03:13 PM PST by lupie
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