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Son, if you knew as much about mormon history ( or history in general ) as you think you do. You would know the dates that Joseph was killed and the date you speak of in regards to Brigham Young were several years apart. Joseph Smith Was killed in june of 1844. How could what Brigham Young did in 1854 mean anything. Also Utah was not even a state in the U.S. and the U.S. was not even sure they wanted it. Joesph was killed in the town of Nauvoo Ill, which at the time was the largest town in the area, aprox 20,000 people. I could go on, get your facts, and then lets talk. Let us agree to disagree as you and I will never see eye to eye on this, We should both join forces to fight our comen enemy, if you do not know who that is, then maybe your in the wrong place. God Bless

Actually I'm a girl, friend.

Not a "son".

But sir, the common enemy all humanity has is Satan, not man.

"We fight not against flesh and blood, but against principalities against powers , against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual host of wickedness in the Heavenly places..."

And these principalities and powers (demonic forces) only have authority if we believe the arguments that they try to deceive us with. That is what a spiritual foothold is.

So, my friend, I am attempting to enjoin you and all other Mormons to see that each argument you believe or put forth that bumps up against the Bible is not of God. Think it through. Why would Jesus say It Is Finished on the cross but then, amend Himself in the 19th Century by adding just a little bit more revelation to things? Uh uh. Doesn't make sense.

It is serious stuff. The battle is our minds. Again, the words of Paul in Galatians ring out every time I think of Joseph Smith:

"Be even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.

As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other Gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed."

Notice, my Mormon friend, that Paul says "received" in the past tense and that even covers his own future preaching if it goes against anything he has already preached. That is past tense as in the first century past tense, and it sets up a standard of belief that is the prooftext for the Book of Mormon. This Mormon stuff leads one away from the real battle in which we must "take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God" in order to hear and pray and live our lives effectively for the Kingdom.

So Jesus and Paul and everyone in the Bible wrote we are in a spiritual war. How can you Mormons be effective if you don't believe the sword of the Spirit is the Word of God? And you know what is the nuclear bomb to Satan's dominion of darkness? The truth spoken in love.

I'm imploring you and all the other Mormon dudes on this thread to really truly go to the real Word of God and pick up your own personal daily cross of dying to self (whatever that may be) and follow Him. Not Joseph Smith.