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To: kosta50
Virtue is not in our nature, FK; we are virtuous only if we follow in God's steps, imitating Christ. The more we choose to cleave to God in this manner, the more we become Christ-like. So, as we diminish in our fallen humanity, we grow in our likeness of God.

I would agree that there is no virtue in us at birth, but I'm a little surprised to hear you say that. What does our free will use to choose God? Does virtue spontaneously emanate from us, or can a virtue-less person simply decide that TODAY I have virtue?

The death of a soul is also not to be understood that the soul will disappear. Souls are immortal. The "death" of a soul as opposed to eternal "life" of a soul has to do with whether we will spend eternity in darkness and discomfort, or in presence of God.

Yes, I fully agree with you here.

8,853 posted on 06/22/2006 2:28:08 PM PDT by Forest Keeper
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To: Forest Keeper
What does our free will use to choose God? Does virtue spontaneously emanate from us, or can a virtue-less person simply decide that TODAY I have virtue?

We are not robots, FK. We know the good and evil, thanks to our ancestral parents. Our capacity to discern and choose is God-given. Our choice is not.

8,866 posted on 06/22/2006 7:52:58 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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