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To: annalex; Dr. Eckleburg
You brought up 1 Cor 13 and you brought up "sins". 1 Cor 13 indeed does not relate to the purgatory in any direct way. But it does speak of the burning of the body, and not burning of works, so whatever reason you have to speak of 1 Cor 13, it fails to deliver for you.

I brought up 1Cor. 13 to show what kind of works get the status of 'gold, silver and precious stones' those done in Charity.

Speaking of the burning of the body is speaking of giving one's body to be burned but if one is not doing it for the right reasons, being controlled by the Spirit, God does not count it as having any value and it will not be rewarded at the judgment seat of Christ.

Hence, if one gives one body to be burned but is not being controlled by the Holy Spirit (Charity), the act is not rewarded at the judgment seat of Christ with the crown of martyrdom, but is considered 'wood, hay and stubble'

In Chapter 3, the context is judgment following death (v 13 and 15) and the purifying burning is of the building itself, because this is the object of the work (St. Paul uses "build" for verb, and "work" for the noun). You cannot burn work, you can only burn the work product. But that building is the man himself (v 9). The impurities are not called sins in the passage, but rather wood, hay and stubble. This is consistent with the Catholic teaching that one burdened with mortal sin cannot enter Purgatory and will not be saved. St. Paul is talking about the purgatorial fire here, that tries the whole of man's life and removes what is of low probity.

Well, your view may be consistent with Catholic teaching, but it is not based on what the scriptures teach.

What that scripture actually says is that works are burned up, not sins.

The foundation of salvation is Christ and what is produced in the body after salvation is either works that will be rewarded or rejected at the Judgment seat of Christ.

1Cor.3:13 says, that the fire will try each man's work to see what sort it is, do you think sins have to be tried?

What is being discussed here are good deeds, that either are being done by God producing fruit (Gal.5:22-24) or through the flesh for wrong motives and under the wrong power.

I Cor 3 cannot be used as a justification for the belief in purgatory.

8,850 posted on 06/22/2006 2:17:45 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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To: fortheDeclaration; Dr. Eckleburg
I brought up 1Cor. 13 to show what kind of works get the status of 'gold, silver and precious stones' those done in Charity.

Ah, I see, OK, on 1 Cor 13 we do not disagree then.

What that scripture actually says is that works are burned up, not sins

And that is consistent with the teaching on purgatory: the life's work of a man destined for salvation is tried.

8855: note from the RCC bible (NAB).

I read the Bible, not the notes. NAB is generally a horrible translation, so I would not trust it for the note either.

8,857 posted on 06/22/2006 4:16:41 PM PDT by annalex
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