And that's without a low-talker in the mix.
Harley, don't know if you're a Seinfeld fan or not, but didn't want to exclude you, if you are.
P.S. Dr. E., I tried to find a picture of her, but couldn't.
"And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me." -- Luke 22:19
But Calvin's words are worth repeating, and thanks for posting them.
"...the devil has introduced the fashion of celebrating the Supper without any doctrine, and for doctrine has substituted ceremonies partly inept and of no utility, and partly dangerous, having proved the cause of much mischief. To such an extent has this been done, that the Mass, which in the Popish Church is held to be the Supper, is, when well explained, nothing but pure apishness and buffoonery. I call it apishness, because they there counterfeit the Lord's Supper without reason, just as an ape at random and without discernment imitates what he sees done."
I intended to ping only you to this post, but restraint was never my strong suit. And it's good for us Protestants to see exactly how John Calvin felt about the perversion of the Lord's Supper (which you thoughtfully posted), both by those who would demean its significance and others who inflate the sacrament into raucous paganism.
And that's without a low-talker in the mix.
Harley, don't know if you're a Seinfeld fan or not, but didn't want to exclude you, if you are.
P.S. Dr. E., I tried to find a picture of her, but couldn't.
No scripture says "spiritual". A whole lot of disciples left Christ over this point (John 6).
how John Calvin felt about the perversion of the Lord's Supper
How he felt I do not care to discuss. It is how he read the scripture that I find contemptible.
Did Jesus spiritually die on the cross??? Jesus sure used an interesting selection of words, like "gnawing", in John 6. I would think that the Jews present during the Eucharistic Discourse of John 6 knew PRECISELY that Jesus was refering to actual flesh and blood, not a "spiritual" body. The Jews ALREADY WERE practicing such "spiritual communion" with the Passover! Why would Jesus "spiritual body" offend them? Come on now!
This goes to show you all that Protestants can't get enough of twisting the Most Holy Scriptures to continue in their errors of pride. The arrogance to think that you all know what Jesus was saying, 2000 years removed using a translation of a translation of a translation - while the Jews standing RIGHT THERE were too stupid to figure out that Jesus was really talking about another spiritual communion similar to the Passover...
Sarcasm on
Thank God for Jean Calvin... too bad he was 1500 years too late to prevent the UNANIMOUS writings of the Fathers that proclaimed Jesus BODILY presence in the Eucharist.
Well, keep following Calvin... It is quite obvious that he was smarter than the entire 2000 year history of the Church as well as the Jews on the ground within earshot of Christ's words.
Sarcasm off.
To those who speak such things, God help your souls.