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To: Kolokotronis
. The fact of the matter is, however, that many Balkan and Middle Eastern Orthodox Christians were not considered white. My own grandfather was told that only "white boys" could shine shoes in front of a certain hotel and in 1909 a Greek orthodox fellow was lynched for dating a "white woman" (in Wisconsin of all places!). Anyway, even many of the hierarchs were ready to adopt Western religious practices and customs in the belief that they would thereby be accepted by the culture around them.

Funny, in that my grandfather remembered for a long time when during WWI, the local Lutheran churches were forced to put American flags in the sanctuary (big no no) and to stop having the services in German.

It sometimes is interesting to see what the "good old days" were really like.

8,595 posted on 06/14/2006 4:15:58 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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"Funny, in that my grandfather remembered for a long time when during WWI, the local Lutheran churches were forced to put American flags in the sanctuary (big no no) and to stop having the services in German.

It sometimes is interesting to see what the "good old days" were really like."

There was a small German Lutheran parish here when I was a kid. One of my best friends' family were members. The old priest was ancient by the time I came along, but I can remember him telling Allen and I exactly that same story. Times of course changed and by the time WWII came along, the local Lutheran families would travel up north to visit a POW camp with German POWs in it. Nobody apparently thought that was in the least odd or innappropriate. Allen's grandfather told me that had that happened during WWI, he'd have been lynched.


8,598 posted on 06/14/2006 4:46:00 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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