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To: annalex

***Well, OK. With the Real Presence, the language fails us.***

I said, BIBLICAL language also fails you...

"Real Presence" is NOT biblical language, it is Catholic dogma.

I said biblical language fails you (i.e. "Do this in memory of Me."). Your view is no memorial.

Does that help you catch my subtle distinction?


8,530 posted on 06/13/2006 6:39:38 PM PDT by alamo boy (I left my heart in San Antonio)
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To: alamo boy
Thank you for helping me understand your meaning.

"Real Presence" is NOT biblical language

Yes it is. I was responding to someone who mistakenly believed that the sacrifice of the Mass is a new atonement multiplied every day in Catholic Churches. I pointed him to the gospel language which underscored the memorial aspect of the Mass and thus connected each Mass to the same cross.

But we also have "this is my body" in the same gospel. This defines real presence. For an in-depth discourse on the real presence one needs to read John 6.

It is true that "im memory of me" would only point to what the Protestants have as "the Lord's Table", a memorial snack. That would indeed be something similar to kissing a dead relative's photograph. Since we also have "this is my body", we have Real Presence and a supernatural event, -- words fail to fully describe it.

8,577 posted on 06/14/2006 10:30:34 AM PDT by annalex
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