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To: Forest Keeper; jo kus; kosta50; 1000 silverlings; Kolokotronis
That sounds like the Spirit hears and obeys the Church

This is exactly what Christ promised: that whatever the Church binds on earth, He will bind in heaven.

8,189 posted on 06/08/2006 11:12:47 AM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex; jo kus; kosta50; 1000 silverlings; Kolokotronis; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg
FK: "That sounds like the Spirit hears and obeys the Church."

This is exactly what Christ promised: that whatever the Church binds on earth, He will bind in heaven.

I think that's a good summary of what divides us. Who is really running the show? My impression is that you believe that God really did take the "keys to heaven" out of His own hands and place them in the hands of men, as if man needs a "key" to get into heaven. We do not. We only need Christ, not a key from a man.

In your statement you literally have God FOLLOWING man. You might say that is by God's design according to scriptures, but can that possibly make sense to you? You describe a reactive God, not a sovereign one or one who is in full control. God does not follow man, it is the reverse. God does not wait to see what the Church will declare as infallible and then say "OK, that's the law in heaven from now on...".

This is fundamental to my "issues" with Catholicism. Delegation of power and authority can be "within" or "away from". I see Catholicism as having much power delegated away from God to men. I believe that any delegation of power or authority by God is TOKEN in nature, and that God retains ALL power and authority to Himself. God knows how He made us. We know NOT what we do. God's love for us is WHY He does not leave our destiny up to ourselves. It is WHY He does not leave us in charge.

8,827 posted on 06/21/2006 3:54:20 AM PDT by Forest Keeper
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