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To: HarleyD
Yep, just checked. The word "politics" shows up 0 times in scripture.

Now, look up "bible"! You know what I mean. The concept is there in both Testaments.

Actually Calvin and the Reformers were very big on structuring government and their principles are credited with establishing many democracies including the United States. However, they attempted to apply God's commandments to government laws just as we are commanded to "do justice".

No doubt. Who was it that wrote "City on a Hill" so long ago? I recall his thesis was instrumental for our current foreign policy, even today. However, theocracy is not a great form of government when people are forced into a particular means of worhsip.

And somehow I can't picture Paul as "politicing" against those "superapostles".

Why do you think he was combating them? He was trying to get his voice heard over the voice of his opponents. It's about authority. That is "politicing", to me. I am not disdainful of what Paul did - he found it necessary under the situation. But he acted just the same to maintain his particular brand of Christianity among the Corinthians.

Don't worry about the recipe for our Eucharistic hosts. It is water and wheat. Pretty simple.

Regards

8,078 posted on 06/07/2006 4:11:49 PM PDT by jo kus (There is nothing colder than a Christian who doesn't care for the salvation of others - St.Crysostom)
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To: jo kus; HarleyD

"Now, look up "bible"! You know what I mean. The concept is there in both Testaments."

Actually, the first word in the NT is "Biblos." :-) Not that it is used in the same way that we think of the word "Bible..."

And then there is Acts 17 with the "politarchii", or rulers of the city. Put that together with the fact that in verse 5 of that chapter we have "certain lewd fellows of the baser sort" being used to stir up the city and its rulers, and I'd say that's a slam dunk for politics being in the Bible -- both in letter and spirit! :-)


8,099 posted on 06/07/2006 8:20:29 PM PDT by Agrarian
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To: jo kus
However, theocracy is not a great form of government when people are forced into a particular means of worhsip.

I haven't studied Calvin's influence on government except for a few articles posted here. However, my understanding is that he wasn't trying to create a theocracy. Rather it spawned democracies.

8,134 posted on 06/08/2006 4:48:21 AM PDT by HarleyD ("Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures" Luke 24:45)
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