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To: spatso

"Semi-Pelagianism is something the Orthodox and the Catholics are sometimes accused of, but I think it is a semantical point. Grace pours on everyone, yes. If that is semi-pelagian, so be it, but it is not pelagian.


8,042 posted on 06/07/2006 11:44:02 AM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex
"Semi-Pelagianism is something the Orthodox and the Catholics are sometimes accused of, but I think it is a semantical point. Grace pours on everyone, yes. If that is semi-pelagian, so be it, but it is not pelagian."

I not sure what you mean in terms of it being a "semantical point." Everything we do in relation to studying and discussing our sacred literature and our traditions is semantical. All points of dispute and dialog are merely semantical exercises. How could it be anything else?
Saying something is semipelagian but not pelagian is awkward in any discussion that asserts human freedom as being directive in a choice of moral action. This point I believe is determinate of any discussion on the question of human freedom in the face of the doctrines of original sin and grace. So, even if, we were to suppose our fallen nature pulls us towards sin the Church now teaches we are not and should not be absolutely determined by the pull.
8,093 posted on 06/07/2006 6:02:24 PM PDT by spatso (r)
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