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To: Agrarian; Forest Keeper; jo kus; annalex; HarleyD
I'm not sure that I have any point to make, but found it interesting. I hadn't read that before, since the Hebrew has a different reading

The point is, Agrarian, that the Book of Job, verse 1:1, says he was a "perfect [or blameless] man" [in God's eyes I suppose]. This tells us that saints are not "perfect" as the Father in heaven is perfect, but that they are perfect in their hearts. We will always sin, while in this fallen body, but it is in our Christian hearts that we may become Christ-like.

Obviously, Job was "perfect" in that sense because he never blamed God for his misfortunes. And God knew it.

7,977 posted on 06/07/2006 3:28:36 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50

"Job was "perfect" in that sense because he never blamed God for his misfortunes. And God knew it."

There are parts where Job turns into a whiner and a blamer, he takes a pretty strong shot at God in 30:20-22

20 "I cry out to you, O God, but you do not answer;
I stand up, but you merely look at me.

21 You turn on me ruthlessly;
with the might of your hand you attack me.

22 You snatch me up and drive me before the wind;
you toss me about in the storm.

And God is very clear in hearing Job as the whiner that he is and slaps him pretty hard in 40.

1 The LORD said to Job:

2 "Will the one who contends with the Almighty correct him?
Let him who accuses God answer him!"

3 Then Job answered the LORD :

4 "I am unworthy—how can I reply to you?
I put my hand over my mouth.

5 I spoke once, but I have no answer—
twice, but I will say no more."

6 Then the LORD spoke to Job out of the storm:

7 "Brace yourself like a man;
I will question you,
and you shall answer me.

8 "Would you discredit my justice?
Would you condemn me to justify yourself?



7,984 posted on 06/07/2006 5:33:53 AM PDT by spatso
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To: kosta50; Agrarian; Forest Keeper; jo kus; annalex; Dr. Eckleburg
Obviously, Job was "perfect" in that sense because he never blamed God for his misfortunes. And God knew it.

Interestingly enough, I was reading Job the other day. While Job might not have blamed God for his misfortunes, God states that He was the cause of Job's misfortunes.

Although Satan was responsible for what fell upon Job, it was all under God's divine permission-a fact that God pointedly refers to. Nothing can happen without God's permission and God looks upon it as He is responsible in allowing things to happen although He is not the perpetrator of evil events.
7,996 posted on 06/07/2006 6:10:54 AM PDT by HarleyD ("Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures" Luke 24:45)
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