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To: spatso

I agree, and it is compatible with Catholicism, that divine grace sometimes operates in a secular or nondenominational setting, such as Alcoholics Anonymous, but this is not a justification for Pelagianism.


7,910 posted on 06/06/2006 2:58:56 PM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex
"I agree, and it is compatible with Catholicism, that divine grace sometimes operates in a secular or nondenominational setting, such as Alcoholics Anonymous, but this is not a justification for Pelagianism."

Yes, indeed it is justification of Pelagianism, I think that was the purpose of Haight's proof. The Westminister Dictionary of Christian Ethics defines the Pelagian theological tradition as asserting "that the human being as accountable must retain some freedom and power of action towards moral growth and that the function of grace, therefore, is educative and cooperative." (pg 255) If, as I understand it, you concede the possibility of the mediation of divine mercy within a community where one alcoholic helps another for no other purpose than to relieve another's suffering, you are outside the doctrine of the church and advocating a semi-Pelagian view.
7,974 posted on 06/07/2006 3:08:02 AM PDT by spatso
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