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To: Forest Keeper

AS I replied privately, the sin of Adam is not a sin we are to repent of or atone for. It is a condition, manifested in our hormones, mental abilities, and foremostly mortality. What we in the West call original sin is a condition of imperfect will that makes us prone to commit actual sins. It also is a condition that makes us unable to reach a union with God. Baptism is necessary to allow the potentiality of union with God, and in that sense Baptism remits the original sin. Most baptized, however, go on to commit actual sin even after baptism, and only some of them, but not all, will be saved in the end.


785 posted on 01/09/2006 12:43:15 PM PST by annalex
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Baptism is necessary to allow the potentiality of union with God, and in that sense Baptism remits the original sin. Most baptized, however, go on to commit actual sin even after baptism, and only some of them, but not all, will be saved in the end.

Hi Alex -

I infer that without baptism, and presumably the performance of the other required sacraments, that union with God cannot be achieved. This leads me to ask what Catholics say about the salvation of those who have never had access to the sacraments, or those of non-Catholic Christian faith. On another thread, one Catholic explained to me (in effect) that, say, for Protestants, if we don't know that we should be Catholics then we might get a pass, but we are rolling the dice. I am curious as to how the Catholics on this thread would answer.

You then go on to say that most people who are baptized go on to commit actual sin even after baptism. Does this mean that some do not?

828 posted on 01/09/2006 5:46:06 PM PST by Forest Keeper
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