To: HarleyD; Kolokotronis
Joh 10:14-15 "I am the good shepherd, and I know My own and My own know Me, even as the Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep. ... Joh 10:26-29 "But you do not believe because you are not of My sheep. My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand. This, or the end of Romans 8 does NOT say anything about OURSELVES. It is only talking about outside forces, be they demons, principalities, other men or whatever. However, it is clear from the context and from other Scriptures that one can turn away from God.
Regards
7,824 posted on
06/05/2006 6:06:17 PM PDT by
jo kus
(There is nothing colder than a Christian who doesn't care for the salvation of others - St.Crysostom)
To: jo kus; HarleyD; Kolokotronis
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Joh 10:14-15 "I am the good shepherd, and I know My own and My own know Me, even as the Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep. ... Joh 10:26-29 "But you do not believe because you are not of My sheep. My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.
This, or the end of Romans 8 does NOT say anything about OURSELVES. It is only talking about outside forces, be they demons, principalities, other men or whatever. However, it is clear from the context and from other Scriptures that one can turn away from God.
Regards
7,825 posted on
06/05/2006 6:08:09 PM PDT by
jo kus
(There is nothing colder than a Christian who doesn't care for the salvation of others - St.Crysostom)
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