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To: jo kus

So the act of immersion into a pool of water has disposed the need for the blood of Christ?

I'm saved by His work on the cross, not by being dipped in water.

>>Catholics don't deny that Christ saves us! We say that He chooses to save us THROUGH the Church. We receive His Body THROUGH the Church. We hear His words THROUGH the Church. We are forgiven of deadly sins THROUGH the Church. We are brought into the Church THROUGH Baptism performed by the Church. God continues to call people to Himself THROUGH the Church.<<

It seems to me you've replaced the Holy Spirit with the church.

Again, you appear to be setting the works of men above the indwelling Spirit.


770 posted on 01/09/2006 8:51:25 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("Hail Him who saved you by His grace, and crown Him Lord of All")
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
So the act of immersion into a pool of water has disposed the need for the blood of Christ? I'm saved by His work on the cross, not by being dipped in water.

ALL the works of the Church rely ENTIRELY on the works of Christ! Baptism is only effective BECAUSE of the redemptive death of Jesus Christ. The visible works of the Church merely make present what Christ is doing invisibly (since grace cannot be seen directly).

I must not being doing a very good job of expressing that. Sorry.

Regards

772 posted on 01/09/2006 9:25:42 AM PST by jo kus
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