[ItsOurTimeNow]

>>It is the sacrament through which the Spirit comes to us to regenerate us.<< So, Paul himself wasn't regenerated until three days after his experience on the road to Damascus? I wasn't baptized in water until well after my regeneration. Don't confuse spiritual baptism with baptism by water. <> In the beginning was the WORD and the WORD was with God and the WORD was God. Not the church. Faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the Word. You give far too much credit to the brick and mortar.

[jo kus]

So, Paul himself wasn't regenerated until three days after his experience on the road to Damascus?

Does the Scripture say that Paul was regenerated before his Baptism?

I wasn't baptized in water until well after my regeneration.

How do you know you were regenerated BEFORE your baptism? Regeneration is a spiritual effect.

In the beginning was the WORD and the WORD was with God and the WORD was God. Not the church.

I never said that the Church is the Word of God. I said that we receive God's Word (His teachings) through the Apostolic Church. CHRIST is the Word who works through His Church. The Chruch makes Christ present today because it does the same thing that He did - it preaches and teaches, and it sanctifies. Through it, God continues to bring His Kingdom to men.

You give far too much credit to the brick and mortar.

I am not talking about the building, but the Apostolic Church, which is a community of believers who continue in the Apostolic succession.

Regards