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To: annalex
"...Of course, the Scripture cannot be understood outside of the Tradition, which is preserved by the Magisterium of the Church,..."
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It's awfully convenient to say SCRIPTURE defies the ability to be understood by any believer, but only by your hierarchical church. I guess that printing press really messed things up for you guys.
7,409 posted on 05/31/2006 6:07:30 AM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: wmfights
It's awfully convenient to say SCRIPTURE defies the ability to be understood by any believer, but only by your hierarchical church. I guess that printing press really messed things up for you guys.

I urge you to read a book on the development of doctrine in early Christian history. You will find that those declared as heretics used the very same Scriptures to prove their points of view as being correct, much as you do today. Even in the Second Century, Catholics were writing about Gnostics who were "appropriating" the Scriptures to suit their fanciful theories. Today, we see this with the Jehovah Witnesses and the Mormons - who aren't Christian. If Scripture was so obvious and could only be taken one way, why do people of good will completely disagree on so much of it?

Regards

7,412 posted on 05/31/2006 6:23:32 AM PDT by jo kus (There is nothing colder than a Christian who doesn't care for the salvation of others - St.Crysostom)
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To: wmfights; jo kus
It's awfully convenient to say SCRIPTURE defies the ability to be understood by any believer, but only by your hierarchical church

As Jo explained to you, the Scripture is not self-explanatory, or we would not have heretics of any description running around. At the same time, no, the Church does not have a monopoly on understandig the Scripture, as many Protestants and unbelievers convert to Catohlicism and Orthodoxy having convicted themselves of the truth of the Church through independent study. Some come home after they had enough of their Protestant pastors. Tim Staples even wrote a book once, "Jimmy Swaggart Made Me Catholic".

7,425 posted on 05/31/2006 10:53:28 AM PDT by annalex
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