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To: blue-duncan; jo kus; HarleyD; kosta50; Forest Keeper; George W. Bush; Kolokotronis; Agrarian

You took one phrase from Eph 1:11, spun it to suit your particular supertition, and ignored all the scriptural evidence shown in Jo's 7311, including, of course, that same Ephesians that exhorts our good works in Eph 2:10 and all chapters 4 through 6.

Ephesians 2 explains that our works are possible through Christ's grace working through us; which is, of course, the Catholic teaching. In Ephesians Paul does not teach that works of charity are innecessary; he spends the rest of the Epistle to teach that they are very much necessary.

You Baptists should read the Gospel every once in a while.


7,365 posted on 05/30/2006 4:41:37 PM PDT by annalex
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Ephesians 2 explains that our works are possible through Christ's grace working through us; which is, of course, the Catholic teaching.

And does Catholic teaching, teaches us that the Holy Spirit of God is sealed inside of us until redemption?

7,371 posted on 05/30/2006 4:59:00 PM PDT by HarleyD ("Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures" Luke 24:45)
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To: annalex; jo kus; HarleyD; kosta50; Forest Keeper; George W. Bush; Kolokotronis; Agrarian
"You took one phrase from Eph 1:11, spun it to suit your particular supertition,"

No, the paragraph is quite clear that one who trusts in Christ (not works for salvation and not trust and works for salvation) is sealed by the Holy Spirit, which is our escrow, security deposit, until the day of redemption. It can't be more clearer unless you have ears that refuse to hear or eyes that refuse to see. Believers are sealed and nothing can break that seal or separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus. Neither you nor I are gods able to defeat the seal of God. Satan will try to break it with the 144,000 and Revelation 14:3 says he will fail.

Do you really think we are stronger or wiser than Satan?
7,377 posted on 05/30/2006 5:34:29 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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