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To: stripes1776; jo kus; HarleyD; Forest Keeper; Agrarian; kosta50; annalex

All of you may find this brief paper of interest on +Gregory Palamas.

http://www.monachos.net/patristics/palamas_theology.shtml

Jo, none of us Orthodox can stress enough how truly fundamental the works of +Gregory have become over the past 600+ years to our understanding of God and yet he is actually only expounding in detail on the works of the Cappadocians who preceed him by 1000 years. In many senses, if one wants to understand Orthodoxy, and on a broader level, what The Church in the East has always believed, reading +Palamas is absolutely necessary. For this reason, some would argue, in this time when the Church of Rome seems to be seeking reunion with Orthodoxy and it appears to most of us that our differences are quite small, an understanding of Palamite theology, rejected by the West and unknown to the Protestants, is foundational to an appreciation of how the West got where it is, how the East has remained, theologically, essentially unchanged and how very different we really are.


7,319 posted on 05/29/2006 7:12:35 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis; stripes1776; jo kus; HarleyD; Forest Keeper; Agrarian; kosta50; annalex
...an understanding of Palamite theology, rejected by the West and unknown to the Protestants, is foundational to an appreciation of how the West got where it is, how the East has remained, theologically, essentially unchanged and how very different we really are.

Hmmmm....I'm not familiar with the details of Gregory Palamas beliefs and I certainly may be misreading this article; but based upon what your reference pointed to, I think Greg was on to something. Just a few excerpts from this article caught my attention.

I like Greg's emphasis on knowledge. This is an area I often focus on since our knowledge and understanding comes from God. Man cannot know God unless God gives man that ability. As this article points out, God is unknowable and His divine grace must bring about the union. Once this union is brought about, one can only want more. Man will never run away.

This sound very Calvinistic in my mind.

7,326 posted on 05/30/2006 4:55:47 AM PDT by HarleyD ("Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures" Luke 24:45)
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Jo, none of us Orthodox can stress enough how truly fundamental the works of +Gregory have become over the past 600+ years to our understanding of God and yet he is actually only expounding in detail on the works of the Cappadocians who preceed him by 1000 years.

I imagine that is true [understanding Palamas] to the same degrees that it is crucial to understanding St. Thomas Aquinas for Latin Catholicism. My question is whether Palamas IS expounding the Cappodocians or not. I have not found any reference to "uncreated energies" in the three saints' writings. Nor have I received an answer on whether the Incarnation is an "energy" or God Himself in His Essence. I have decided to read Pelikan's Development of Doctrine on Eastern Christianity to give me a better understanding of how it developed and differs from the West. Until then, forgive me if I take a break from this discussion.

Regards

7,329 posted on 05/30/2006 5:50:21 AM PDT by jo kus (There is nothing colder than a Christian who doesn't care for the salvation of others (St.Crysostom))
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