[George W. Bush]

But the core of our disagreement lies in your concept of baptism: it holds God's grace hostage to human intellectual "understanding" of faith. In essence you are saying that God cannot bestow His grace on those who cannot understand. That places an awful lot of brain-damaged humans on the train to perdition. God is Mercy and mercy does not require conceptualization of the one who receives it. He spares us.

Do not accuse us of excluding the unfortunate. This is by no means true. My cousin has severe Downs syndrome and I am very confident of her salvation. We are pleased to believe that God has their fate well in hand, just as He does our own. We believe that His judgment is certain and compassionate. When we embrace believers' baptism, we by no means exclude infants or the disabled from the possibility of God's grace. However, we do follow that example in scripture and we offer baptism to the repentant as scripture did. And we allow God the liberty to deal with all persons as He sees fit. That's awfully generous of us, no?

I would suggest the apostles and the early church did not and modern Baptists do not hold such doubts about God's mercies as what you baby-splashers do.

If you truly believe that having the clergy splash a baby makes the difference between heaven and hell, then it would seem to me that it is the Orthodox (and the Presbys etc.) who hold a view of a cruel and capricious God. Not us Baptists.

I'd also point you toward scripture which refers repeatedly to being born again. What use does a baby whose umbilical is still attached have for being born again? He's barely dry from his first birth. It's makes nonsense of scripture, turning it into a fable. And for what? Because some spiritually immature parents might grieve excessively if their children should die prematurely? It's not worth it. And it's not scriptural. And it harms the churches.

[kosta50]

Do not accuse us of excluding the unfortunate

Well, they can't repent, which seems to be your formula for receiving God's grace. Those who cannot repent or have nothing to repent for can receive God's grace without repentance.

Being baptized is not something you "qualify" for when you are "old enough." Get real.

As for "splashing," your ignorance is pathetic. We don't splash. The Orthodox submerge three times. The Geek word to "baptize" means to submerge. We will pour water over the head if a baptismal pool is not available. But either way, water is necessary, and biblical.

As for what we believe will happen to the unbaptized babies, your ignorance is again glaringly obvious. The Orthodox firmly believe that God's mercy prevails over any judgment and trust that whatever God does is always merciful and just regardless which one of us it concerns.

Instead of learning something about Orthodoxy, you go on your preconceived notions and hearsay. I am not sure what irks you so much about Orthodoxy, but you need to look into your heart and find out. Perhaps truth hurts?