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To: Full Court
The Bible doesn't mention Mary as co redeeming anyone from sin.

It implies that she had just as much to do with co-redeeming as Eve had to do with bringing about mankind into the realm of sin.

Paul already makes half of the connection by calling Jesus the New Adam. Certainly, this would make Mary the New Eve, the woman mentioned in Genesis 3:15, the woman mentioned at Cana and the foot of the cross. As Simeon said, a sword would pierce her heart. TWO people's hearts were pierced at Calvary for the sake of the Father's will in heaven. Mary will be called blessed by all generations...

It is the obedience of ONE, Jesus Christ, not Mary.

Yes, and as Adam's sin condemned man to death, Jesus work on the Cross redeemed men. However, as Eve participated, was present, was more than a bystander to Adam's action, so did Mary. Neither females were necessary in their scenarios, but it was God's will that they participate and were present. They added nothing to the male's respective work, but just the same, God had them both there. Thus, we can say that Mary was a co-redeemer. There is a lot of deeper meaning to Mary, which is why one would be better served meditating on what exactly was her role and her continued role as being the woman of enmity against the "serpent" even today.

Regards

6,999 posted on 05/22/2006 9:47:32 AM PDT by jo kus (For love is of God; and everyone that loves is born of God, and knows God. 1Jn 4:7)
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To: jo kus
"Paul already makes half of the connection by calling Jesus the New Adam. Certainly, this would make Mary the New Eve"

I don't follow this analogy. Mary was the mother of God, she was not the partner or "other half," as in cleave unto...become one flesh.

7,001 posted on 05/22/2006 10:43:00 AM PDT by colorcountry (He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep, to gain what he cannot lose.)
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To: jo kus
Yes, and as Adam's sin condemned man to death, Jesus work on the Cross redeemed men. However, as Eve participated, was present, was more than a bystander to Adam's action, so did Mary.

A logical inconsistency. Eve tempted Adam. And she was not his mother. He would have existed without her and only his sin caused the Fall, not hers. There are many other reasons why Mary's relationship to Jesus is not a reverse mirror image historically and spiritually to Adam and Eve.

For instance, Jesus would not have existed without Mary giving birth to Him. And if she really were a co-redemptrix, then she could have been sacrificed on the cross for us instead of Him.

I've always considered this archetype business to have gotten out of hand. It often makes scriptures appear to say more than they ever said and is often too clever by half. It is also susceptible to manipulation by heretics and those whose teachings are tendentious.
7,047 posted on 05/23/2006 8:48:03 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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