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To: Kolokotronis
Does He? Seems an exceedingly mundane emotion to attribute to a completely ineffable and wholly transcendant being, my friend!

Well, if God doesn't hate sin then how does he feel about it? Is He indifferent? Is He mildly opposed to it? Does He like it because through our good deeds we work to overcome sin and seek Him?

It never ceases to amaze me how especially Western Protestants have so totally bought into the very Hellenistic Platonism of my ancestors that the Holy Spirit freed us from. This is heresy, FK.

Heresy? The Bible says that our God is a just God, that He is a God of mercy, that he pours out His wrath on those whom He chooses. I say I believe it all. For that I am a Hellenistic Platonic heretic? I can't wait to tell my wife.

66 posted on 01/02/2006 2:31:50 PM PST by Forest Keeper
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To: Forest Keeper
It's pretty funny that you post solid Christine doctrine and get labeled (incorrectly) a "Hellenistic Platonic heretic" for the effort.

Seems to be a lot of that going around. 8~)

67 posted on 01/02/2006 2:41:35 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (an ambassador in bonds)
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To: Forest Keeper; kosta50

"Well, if God doesn't hate sin then how does he feel about it? Is He indifferent?"

Well, if you insist on being anthropomorphic about it, yes, He is indifferent.

"The Bible says that our God is a just God, that He is a God of mercy, that he pours out His wrath on those whom He chooses."

God is "just"? By whose standards? You don't know God's standards, none of use do and clearly God is not "just" at all by man's standards. Your definition creates a God to be saved "from" not "by". By the way, the English word "just" found in the bible is a mistranslation of the Greek which is similarly a mistranslation of the OT Hebrew.

"For that I am a Hellenistic Platonic heretic?"

No, because you seem to think that God is some sort of Platonic prime of Love, Hate, Justice, etc.


74 posted on 01/02/2006 3:01:01 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis
Well, if God doesn't hate sin then how does he feel about it?

God feels? Is He subject to pleasure? Is He subject to passions? Is He subject to pride and desires? Does God need, is He deficient, unsatisfied?

I think Kolkotronis was trying to tell you that your idea of a God who is just "like us" except bigger and stronger and immortal, and subject to passions and pleasures just as we are, is not a Christian God, but a Hellenistic pagan god. The pagan Greeks humanized their deities, but in fact deified humaity.

The Bible says that our God is a just God, that He is a God of mercy, that he pours out His wrath on those whom He chooses

And I suppose you think God's justice is driven by the same necessities as human justice? An angry, and offended God, lashing out to satisfy His wounded pride. Is that how you see it?

76 posted on 01/02/2006 3:01:16 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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