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To: kosta50; jo kus
A baby which is not baptized and dies is not incorporated into Christ by the Holy Spirit, separated from God.

WHAT??? :) Are you telling me that every aborted baby is damned to hell?

6,377 posted on 05/12/2006 5:50:13 AM PDT by Forest Keeper
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To: Forest Keeper
Are you telling me that every aborted baby is damned to hell?

Well, they can't receive a Christian funeral. What happens to them is up to God. Orthodoxy does not speculate on this. We believe that God has at His disposal an infinite number of options what to do with each soul that has not been baptized, and that His judgment is always merciful and just.

6,404 posted on 05/12/2006 2:12:00 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Forest Keeper
WHAT??? :) Are you telling me that every aborted baby is damned to hell? LOL! That is precisely what St. Augustine wrestled with! And those darned Calvinists... No, the Catholic Church does not accept St. Augustine's position on this matter. Various theologians have attempted to reconcile the necessity of Baptism to be united with God in heaven. Most suggest that babies in such situations will not be punished, but will not enjoy the Beatific Vision in heaven. (thus the Limbo thing that is not official teaching). In the end, we rely on God's Mercy - that God will not send to hell a baby (or a man!) who was unable to respond to the call. God is not bound by the Sacraments - and St. Augustine argued precisely this vs. the Donatists. I find it strange that he didn't see this as a way out of damning infants to hell.

Regards

6,515 posted on 05/12/2006 7:25:30 PM PDT by jo kus (For love is of God; and everyone that loves is born of God, and knows God. 1Jn 4:7)
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