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To: annalex; Agrarian
You did not notice a response, but there was at least one, from me, in 6160: When it states [in Rom 3:23] that all have sinned it includes Mary. No it doesn't. The adjacent verses make clear that "all" refers to the Godless who toil uinder the law of nature or the law of Moses (compare verses 11-18).

Sorry, I miss some of these posts. I'm extremely busy at the moment and, while I try to catch things directed at me, I'm not always successful.

I would disagree with your interpretation. Please note the entire context of the verses:

Paul is clearly talking about the people who have been justified included in the list of those who have sinned. Besides, isn't it the Catholics (among others) that tells me over and over that Christ died "for the whole world", that ANYONE may believe in Christ and turn and be saved. One has to presume under such theology they would mean Mary as well.

If you would like another verse then please consider the following:

Under your interpretation this would not apply to Mary. But Isaiah clearly states that ALL of us like sheep have gone astray. Christ was pierced for OUR transgressions and by Him we are healed (to God's great glory and to show His great mercy to us). Note that Isaiah includes himself in this so he is obviously talking about everyone-including Mary. So it leave you with a problem.
6,375 posted on 05/12/2006 4:42:35 AM PDT by HarleyD ("Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures" Luk 24:45)
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To: HarleyD; Agrarian
Paul is clearly talking about the people who have been justified included in the list of those who have sinned

This is how St. Paul describes these "all" (Romans 3):

13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have dealt deceitfully. The venom of asps is under their lips. 14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness: 15 Their feet swift to shed blood: 16 Destruction and misery in their ways:

I know how deeply the late Reformed hate the Mother of God, but still, does it look to you that St. Paul is referring to Christ's Mother in this way?

6,389 posted on 05/12/2006 12:00:08 PM PDT by annalex
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