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To: kosta50; Agrarian; Dr. Eckleburg

" So, literal interpretation is impossible. Expanded interpretation adds human element which is corrupt, so instead of a resolution we have a rationalization."

It is interesting that you use a different standard of interpretation when it comes to issues like "perpetual virginity", "brothers of Jesus, "praying to saints","primacy of Peter" and "apostolic succession" etc. Instead of reconciling scripture with scripture you force scripture to be the handmaid of your church's dogma and tradition. You would rather use an expanded interpretation of "till", "brother,brethren" "keys" or "right hand of fellowship" than their normal and usual meaning since that contradicts the dogma and tradition, yet you would devalue the sacrifice of Jesus for the sins of the world by presenting two "perfect" people, exceptions to sin, Job and Mary, in spite of Job's declaration of his own sin and the complete absence of any evidence that Mary was sinless.


6,110 posted on 05/09/2006 8:48:52 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: blue-duncan

I really don't see your point. If there are two standards of interpretation, I am missing it. The Orthodox Church takes all of Holy Tradition as a seamless whole, with Holy Scripture being the pinnacle, the center, the most authoritative part of Tradition.

The same standard of interpretation is applied to all things in the Orthodox Church: taking the body of faith as a whole.

What was being pointed out was that *Protestantism* has different standards of interpretation for different passages, interpreting some things literally and other things figuratively, without hard sola scriptura indications as to which standard is to be applied to which passage.

We know which passages we are to read literally and which figuratively not only by internal evidence of the Scriptures themselves, but by our traditional understandings of the Scriptures that have been handed down through the centuries, starting, we believe, with the teachings of Christ and the Apostles.


6,112 posted on 05/09/2006 9:53:21 PM PDT by Agrarian
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To: blue-duncan; Agrarian; Dr. Eckleburg
It is interesting that you use a different standard of interpretation when it comes to issues like "perpetual virginity", "brothers of Jesus, "praying to saints","primacy of Peter" and "apostolic succession" etc. Instead of reconciling scripture with scripture you force scripture to be the handmaid of your church's dogma and tradition

Maybe you can show me what's the real difference between a "reconcilliation" obtained through the Holy Tradition or through an individual's rationalizations, and why should I (dis)trust one over the other.

Regardless of the reason for it, any and all scriptural reconcilliations through human interpretations make sola scriptura an oxymoron.

6,123 posted on 05/10/2006 3:56:53 AM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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