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To: D-fendr; annalex
You also have Jesus talking to the "dead" in the Transfiguration.

Matthew 28:18  And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto *me
in heaven and in earth.

But you never can find any example of anyone being told to pray to a human being, dead or alive.

5,635 posted on 05/04/2006 3:20:41 PM PDT by Full Court
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To: Full Court
As for the Transfiguration: Where were those whom He was talking to? What of those in Heaven? What is your view of their reality, time/space, perception?

But you never can find any example of anyone being told to pray to a human being, dead or alive.

I think (hope) you know the Catholic view on worship vs. prayer. Pray means ask. Praying to the saints is not to be confused with worship. It's more like asking, or conversation for some.

So asking a saint to pray for us is the most normal use - what you might call "praying to."

As for examples of "anyone being told to pray to a human being, dead or alive," there are many. I think several from Paul.

5,637 posted on 05/04/2006 3:52:58 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: Full Court
you never can find any example of anyone being told to pray to a human being, dead or alive.

Prayer to saints is prayer to God.

5,639 posted on 05/04/2006 3:57:35 PM PDT by annalex
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To: Full Court

I think I can simplify our differences. I think you accept the concept of intercessory prayer, and our difference is in the Communion of Saints - intercessory prayer as it applies to Saints who have passed this existence.


5,641 posted on 05/04/2006 4:08:11 PM PDT by D-fendr
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