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To: 1000 silverlings
I said "men the power to overrule God's "everlasting" Covenant. Yet, men in 47 AD got together and did precisely that...

You responded No they didn't. As God says, the Jews broke the covenant, rendering it null and void. He then established a new one, by Jesus's blood.

We know that today. But what about the Jew of 50 AD. What evidence from SCRIPTURE ALONE gives the Apostles the authority to break part of the everlasting covenant of the Old Testament? Christians argue, correctly, that they were given this power to FULFILL the Covenant through Christ's work. But this is hidden within the OT. It is subject to interpretation that the Christians undertook as a result of their cognitive dissonance that occured after the Resurrection - trying to put two apparent truths together - that Scripture is from God AND Jesus, a condemned crinimal - was the Messiah, even the Son of God...

The only thing that gave power to the Apostles to overturn the requirement of Circumcision was their ORAL claim that Jesus rose from the dead, confirming His teachings as from God. Otherwise, with Sola Scriptura, they got nothing... They have NO authority to overturn anything from Scriptures. It is only the power given by Christ, the power to bind and loosen, that has given them the ability to loosen the requirements of circumcision upon the faithful, NOT the Bible.

Since the first Apostles did not operate under the guise of Sola Scriptura, what makes you think we should?

Regards

5,492 posted on 05/03/2006 1:28:12 PM PDT by jo kus (I will run the way of thy commandments, when thou shalt enlarge my heart...Psalm 119:32)
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To: jo kus
Again, the Apostles did not overrule or break the covenant, nor did they do away with any Word of God. Jesus told them the plain truth of it. For instance, "Mt 26:28, "For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins."

You have some idea that a group of men sat around and "made up" Christianity and that is just not true.

5,493 posted on 05/03/2006 1:36:39 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings
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To: jo kus; 1000 silverlings; Dr. Eckleburg; Frumanchu
What evidence from SCRIPTURE ALONE gives the Apostles the authority to break part of the everlasting covenant of the Old Testament?

I'm not an expert on Covenent theology but if I'm not mistaken man has NO rights in disolving a convenantal promise of God. It was God who said,

God changed the convenant and He revealed this change in many ways (e.g. the transfiguration of Christ with Elijah (prophet) and Moses (Law), and the vision of Peter before Cornileus to name two). It was strictly by Sola Scriptura that Peter and the rest could look back at the promises of God of changing this covenant. He opened their minds to understanding the scriptures, just like my tag line states.
5,499 posted on 05/03/2006 3:41:07 PM PDT by HarleyD ("Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures" Luk 24:45)
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